Like I said, stop funding them.
"Ever so often, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Unalienable Rights
Well when the workd gets out, and it will, that this CURRENT government structure is OUR government , not anyone elses government.
It is OUR government's duty to protect RIGHTs. Privacy is arguably a RIGHT and the "illegal alien POTUS" has the right, too.
So where is the answer to the problem we have now?
The answer MAY not be in the courts but in the VOTERS' hands. LAW, recall of representatives, etc.
AND! The lack of 'standing' issue is a serious LEGAL problem. Cuz...one CANNOT compel the government to OBEY the laws IF one has NOT been injured ie: lacks standing.
So weigh the legal matters based on the red text above and you will SOON know that the Obama issue is OUR issue because he violated OUR law/s.
Just organize by calling and recruiting volunteers who are probably at the Grange, Eagles, Moose, Vet orgs. and on and on and on.
Get a laptop and do a Power Point presentation about Oblammmma etc at the organizations' meetings.
Put a sign on your vehicle saying we INAUGURATED an "ILLEGAL ALIEN" and have a website on the sign too, so the sign readers can find out what's going on with the "ILLEGAL ALIEN".
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Gary Mach
It is the difference between DeFacto and DeJure. Until we stop answering the wrong questions and start functioning in the correct realm programs will come and go as distractions and the machine keeps rolling along!
Their is a thing in court called traversing. It is used to keep an aponent off point. The idea is to get your aponent to traverse to an off point argument. If your aponent is kept off point you win. We can whine all we want about issues and not make any progress due to being off point. Most of (if not all) the programes keep the public off point. If they keep us asking the wrong questions they don't have give us the right answers,
The DeFacto Government is not the true Govt. and it's funding needs to end. That is some thing the people can do.
As to success and/or demise of the programs and bills you metioned they are all debatable. They are all off point.
What ever deal that goes down has a new bigger and badder one waiting in the wings. Voting the bums out is something the people can do to. But they don't. Why?
The people need to be reminded that nothing protects them as well as a Republican form of Govt. I don't mean being a Republican as to what they have become is some where left of center.
I think most will not get it untill it all colapses. Hopefully the people will do the right thing then and not just ask for more Govt.
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Unalienable Rights
Maybe focusing on what can be done instead of what can't be done would be the way to go wouldn't it ?
What about MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) it worked didn't it ? AND! What about 'BRADY" and the BRADY BILL ...it worked didn't it ? AND! what about the DUBAI PORTS DEAL it went down ...didn't it ? AND! what about the AMNESTY BILL ...it went down didn't it ?
AND! if a group is focused on REMOVING Oblammmma ...it will work too; no doubt about it...and it won't be an easy task to accomplish either.
See the link below and also the links in the SIGNATURE area of this email.
Resource to Combine progress Data of various Obama Elimination Groups:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7bd2qt_43f3qddwdk
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gary Mach
Until the voters figure out that their Senators, and Representatives aren't on their side and vote the bums out (If the votes really count, paper ballots might be in order here) nothing will change! We can recruit all we want but we still end up with people that don't know that Democrats and Republicans are almost identical in their core and will keep the machine rolling down the same path it has been on for the last 80+ years! If we don't break out of the 2 party system (it is really 1 party) we are doomed for sure! If the Congress did the right thing and did not abdicate their responsibility (because they have been paid off) we would not be in this mess. The Congress is a reflection of the dumbed down populace right now, they all wan't and have their hand out. Wellfair top to bottom! Fauxbamma only got in because the represenatives of the people didn't do their job. It starts there. No one is stealing our rights, the people have failed to hold their feet to the fire at the lower levels and retain our States rights! The population as a whole don't get it because they have been indoctrinated in the public school system and have no grasp on their responsibility to do their part. They want someone else to do the dirty work. The first thing people should be doing is cut off the funding and pay off ALL of their debt! With the debt paid off the house of cards colapses. Our monitary system is debt based, no debt no system, it is that easy! See the links in the signature below, and this link.
Resource to Combine progress Data of various Obama Elimination Groups:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7bd2qt_43f3qddwdk
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Unalienable Rights
Great quotes are not going to help remove the bad guy from office. There needs to be a volunteer recruiting and strategy developed to ALERT 50+ million voters who didn't vote for Oblammma the liar and "illegal alien". Not to forget the Other 60) million voters who voted for a LIAR and a CHEAT who is stealing OUR rights .....rights that take 75% of the states to change...not ONE liar who appears to have his way for now.
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Jeff M
Subject: Great quote
"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multipy wealth by dividing it."
~~~ The late Dr. Adrian Rogers , 1931 to 2005 ~~~
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