Fox News Caves Under Pressure
by Debra Moore, of "Exposing Liberal Lies" blog
Posted by Miriam on November 29, 2008 at 5:43pm
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This is America, land of the free! But, you wouldn’t know it based on our biased news coverage. One would think we live in the former Soviet Union and that Pravda, the government-controlled media, is broadcasting the news the way the Communist Party wanted it aired.
Before anyone gets all bent out of shape, I acknowledge that our government does not run our mainstream media. Instead, journalists have chosen on their own to slant their coverage to propagate their left-wing agenda. No accurate reporting from most newspapers, cable news stations, and all three nightly news broadcasts, not if it could hurt their liberal politicians.
Americans are fed up; just look at the ratings and at the fact that newspapers such as the New York Times are losing money. We want to hear the news, and I mean all the news, and with some objectivity.
Fox News was one station that people could count on to be “fair and balanced”. In fact during the recent election, a research group stated that Fox News did 40% negative coverage on both John McCain and Barack Obama; that’s impressive statistics. That, in fact, is why Fox has such high ratings.
However, their popularity may be going by the wayside, partly because the Saudis purchased a small percentage of the network. Doesn’t that just figure that the Arabs had to get their two cents into our news outlets. Would these people please go back to their desert homes and let us alone?
Atlas Shrugs reports about the Fox News story:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/fox-goes-ov...
“Watch their numbers slide. FOX never really understood why they were number one. Back as far as 2005, I lamented the dhimmitude.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2005/06/the_fox_tha...
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2005/03/pwr_removin...
We all lost a chunk of our innocence after the Saudis purchased 6% of FOX News. The fix was in. FOX threw in with the Saudis and we could not help but notice the increasing Saudi influence at FOX News ever since the French riots of 2005 when after one phone call, FOX newscasters stopped calling the Muslim rioters Muslims.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2005/09/that_explai...
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/12/fox-news-an...
‘I picked up the phone and called Murdoch … [and told him] these are not Muslim riots, these are riots out of poverty,’ Prince al-Walid said.
Yes Obama's Prince Al-Walid, Obama's Benefactor: Dr. Khalid al Mansour, I presume ...
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/obamas-bene...
‘Within 30 minutes, the title was changed from Muslim riots to civil riots.’
Gald wrote me, ‘The analysts at Fox (the ‘sane’ network) were theorizing (hoping) that the murderers at Mumbai Chabad were (get this) HINDUS! Of course! Those Jew-hating HINDUS!
Even before the Jewish corpses have experienced rigor mortis, liberals are cautioning against an outbreak of...Islamophobia! Lewis Carroll never constructed such an inversion of reality. It would be devastating even if Jews were united, but most American Jews are participants in this charade. Will Time Magazine's house Hebrew Joe Klein condemn the Islamic murderers of innocent Jews? No, he will question the patriotism of Jews who support Israel. Tragically, Klein is the rule...not the exception. Keep fighting the good fight, although embracing reality will just convince people that you are crazy. Still, we must unite to battle those Jew-hating Hindus.’
A TOOTHLESS FOX? Radio Equalizer
FNC Censors Itself Ahead Of Obama Presidency
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/11/fox-news-channel-engages...
‘Confirming the worst fears of millions of dedicated fans, the Fox News Channel really has gone soft on Obama. That's at a time when viewers are counting on it to remain a key opposition voice during a disturbing political shift away from freedom and prosperity.
According to columnists Rush & Malloy of the New York Daily News, Fox has issued a chilling edict to its hosts that they must cease criticism of Obama for the near future:
http://www.nydailynews.com/other/2008/11/07/2008-11-07_side_dish_th...
“Fox News boss Roger Ailes doesn't want to spoil Barack Obama's political honeymoon, we hear. A source says Ailes has told prime-time hosts Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and Greta Van Susteren to lay off the President-elect - at least for a while.
‘We're not going to have any personal attacks on Obama,’ a network insider says. ‘The public has spoken - we must treat him with respect.’”
This confirms an almost-identical account your Radio Equalizer was given Wednesday evening from a key source. That person contends the order came from the top: Rupert Murdoch himself.
"Personal attacks", by the way, can be construed to mean any criticism of Barack Obama whatsoever.
The reason? News Corporation is bracing for potentially-vindictive actions by Obama's incoming thugocracy, especially regarding dual station / newspaper ownership rules and apparently seeks to placate the Dear Leader, hoping he will be merciful.
Unfortunately, this is a great way to send FNC's audience running for the hills, with evening talk radio as the likely beneficiary. Meanwhile, the left will still hate Fox.’
Did MSNBC lay off of Bush during his time in office? Of course not. Then why should FOX sacrifice its entire audience out of fear of Obama's thugs?
What about the tens of millions of voters that didn't support Obama and refuse to join his creepy cult?
Even before the election, viewers were alarmed over a sudden shift to a pro-Obama stance, especially during its debate coverage:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_101608/content/01125106...
Particularly disturbing to Fox fans was Carl Cameron's now widely-discredited hit piece against Sarah Palin, which has led to a huge backlash in favor of the Alaskan governor.“
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110608/content/01125106...
Also, don’t forget that Fox News did not renew the contract of E.D. Hill after 11 years of service, most of it as a Fox and Friends anchor, where I might add, she did an awesome job. Hill referred to a fist bump by the Obamas as a “terrorist fist jab”, and later apologized for her comment.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/ed_hill_to_leave_fox_news_c...
Frankly, this is a big disappointment. I noticed during the presidential race, that Fox had very little to say about the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, Obama's radical position on gun control, and nothing whatsoever to say about Obama's connection to Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga, for whom Obama campaigned. Of course, no one is mentioning the Obama birth certificate story. It's absolutely shameful! I guess that leaves us with the internet if we want to get the facts about what is going on around the world.
Reposted from "Fox News Caves Under Pressure" by Debra Moore of the "Exposing Liberal Lies" blog.
Saturday, November 29, 2008
Need Help in Search
Barack Obama attended 3 expensive private universities: Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Barack Obama has a half brother Mark Ndsandjo (Obama, Nidesand, Nidersand) his father was Barack Obama, Sr. His mother was Ruth Nidesand, an American preschool teacher, third wife of BO,Sr. Mark also attended 3 expensive US universities: Columbia, Stanford and Emory.
In Barack Obama's book and Jerry Corsi's book, Mark was quoted, saying that for him Barack Obama Sr. was dead, even when he was alive, since he was a drunk, a wife beater, a bigamist and didn't support his family. Ann Dunham's 1980 divorce from Lolo Soetoro shows that they didn't have any property and she was not getting any child support. The question is, how could these two half brothers afford to go to three expensive private universities in the US? One of the possibilities, (aside from help from a Saudi family) is in grants and scholarships that are given to students from the third world countries, such as Kenya and Indonesia.
I wonder if one of the volunteers can take charge of the search and file freedom of information act requests for info on Barack Obama's grants? He was supposed to put citizenship there and that is an "admission against interest", if he put Kenya or Indonesia or both. One possibility is a Fulbright Fellowship (his father was a recipient). Please e-mail me at dr_taitz@yahoo.com
In Barack Obama's book and Jerry Corsi's book, Mark was quoted, saying that for him Barack Obama Sr. was dead, even when he was alive, since he was a drunk, a wife beater, a bigamist and didn't support his family. Ann Dunham's 1980 divorce from Lolo Soetoro shows that they didn't have any property and she was not getting any child support. The question is, how could these two half brothers afford to go to three expensive private universities in the US? One of the possibilities, (aside from help from a Saudi family) is in grants and scholarships that are given to students from the third world countries, such as Kenya and Indonesia.
I wonder if one of the volunteers can take charge of the search and file freedom of information act requests for info on Barack Obama's grants? He was supposed to put citizenship there and that is an "admission against interest", if he put Kenya or Indonesia or both. One possibility is a Fulbright Fellowship (his father was a recipient). Please e-mail me at dr_taitz@yahoo.com
Who is responsible for vetting the candidates?
The blog "The Right Side of Life" has an interesting post today entitled "Is the Onus of Presidential Qualification on the Parties?". This article contains a link to the DNC Delegate Selection Rules, where on page 18 it is stated that:
In addition, there is a link to copies of letters between the South Carolina Democratic Party and the South Carolina Election Commission claiming that the Party is responsible for determining the eligibility of the candidates.
An article on "Vetting Candidates" on the Save Our Rights Wiki contains the responses by 15 states on whose responsibility is it to determine the eligibility of the candidates. In all 15 cases, the relevant state officers have claimed that it is not their responsibility to judge eligilibity of the candidates.
Robert Stevens
K. 1. Based on the right of the Democratic Party to freely assemble and to determine the
criteria for its candidates, it is determined that all candidates for the Democratic
nomination for President or Vice President shall:
a. be registered to vote, and shall have been registered to vote in the last
election for the office of President and Vice President; and
b. have demonstrated a commitment to the goals and objectives of the
Democratic Party as determined by the National Chair and will participate
in the Convention in good faith.
2. It is further determined that these requirements are in addition to the requirements set forth by the United States Constitution and any law of the United States. (emphasis added)
In addition, there is a link to copies of letters between the South Carolina Democratic Party and the South Carolina Election Commission claiming that the Party is responsible for determining the eligibility of the candidates.
An article on "Vetting Candidates" on the Save Our Rights Wiki contains the responses by 15 states on whose responsibility is it to determine the eligibility of the candidates. In all 15 cases, the relevant state officers have claimed that it is not their responsibility to judge eligilibity of the candidates.
Robert Stevens
Thursday, November 27, 2008
Puzzling connections in Obamagate
Yesterday the fourth law suit, challenging Obama's citizenship and Natural Born status reached the Supreme Court:
1. Philip J Berg, PA An answer from Barack Obama is due by Dec.1
2. Leo C. Donofrio, NJ The case is scheduled for conference by all 9 judges on Dec 5
3.Chris Strunck, NY filed with SCOTUS last week
4. Cort Wrotnowski, CT (second case)filed yesterday.
many more to come...
As explained earlier, Hawaii allows one to obtain a Certification of Hawaiian Live Birth based on a statement of one relative only. It means,that while Obama was born in Kenya, his grandma or grandpa could've simply gone to the Health Department in HI and stated that he was born in Hi and would've obtained a valid birth certificate. Additionally, Hi statue 338.176 allows residents of HI to register in Hi birth of their children, that were actually born in other states or other foreign countries. This statue is based on previous statues, going back to 1911, when Hi citizens worked abroad and wanted to preserve Hi citizenship for their children.
There is no corroborating evidence, no birthing records from any hospital in Hi, on the other hand there are affidavits and statements from Obama's paternal grandmother Sarah Obama, his half brother and half sister and even ambassador of Kenya His Excellency Ogengo, stating that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya.
There are numerous other facts showing split allegiance for Mr. Obama, having British, Kenyan and Indonesian citizenship and simply the fact that his father was a British citizen at the time of Obama's birth, which negates his Natural Born Status and makes him ineligible to be the president of the US(Kenya was a British protectorate in 1961).
The most nauseating and most distressing factor in the Obamagate is a total lack of decency of the main stream media, that was lining up to kiss Obama's feet instead of asking him tough questions. The media is complicit in this Constitutional crisis. Now there are more and more calls to license media outlets and pollsters. If they are found to be misinforming the public, hiding matters of National importance in order to manipulate the results of the National elections, the media outlets that engage in such behavior should be stripped of their licensees. Additionally, if indeed fraud was committed, the media is guilty of aiding and abetting commission of fraud. If a foreign citizen is certified as a winner of the presidential election and a foreign citizen is put in charge of the US Army, that is treason and everyone complicit should be investigated and properly punished.
Each and every US citizen needs to send letters, e-mails, faxes, call all 50 Secretaries of States, all 50 Governors all 538 Electors, all 100 senators and all 435 representatives and demand that they do not certify this election until Mr. Obama signs a consent for release of all the necessary documents: original BC in HI, that shows the name of the Hospital and the name and signature of the doctor, birthing records from the hospital, any and all passports with all the immigration stamps, college enrollment records from Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, responses from the embassies of Great Britain, Kenya and Indonesia and resolution in the Supreme Court of all the legal actions relating to his citizenship. If this is not done, and Mr. Obama is certified, everyone involved in the certification process is guilty of aiding and abetting commission of fraud and possibly aiding and abetting commission of treason.
Every decent, law abiding citizen of this country needs to keep calling and writing to all of the media and all of the advertisers and sponsors of media that refuses to go on the air, on TV and refuses to cover this Constitutional crisis of monumental proportions. Tell all the advertisers and sponsors that they need to boycott all the media that refuses to provide us the truth. Lets blackout the media that gave us the blackout of the truth.
There is a step in the right direction. Recently Greta van Sustren (Fox)on her blog Greta-wire demanded production of the original birth certificates by all the major candidates. This first step has to be followed by an open discussion on the air since only a small number of viewers read he blog. Mr. Rupert Murdock (owner of Fox) and his reporters Sean Hannitty, Bill O'Reilly, Laura Ingram, Glenn Beck need to show decency and journalistic integrity and demand production of documents from Mr. Obama prior to certification on December the 15Th.
MSNBC has published an article on the Internet about two lawsuits currently in front of the Supreme Court challenging Mr. Obama's qualifications for presidency, that's a baby step in the right direction, however nothing was said on the air. Why? Is there any financial or other interest involved in putting this man in the White House? From what I understand MSNBC is jointly owned by Microsoft and GE. Last year, in summer of 2007 GE has sold for reported 11.6 Billion it's GE Plastics division to Basic Industries of Saudi Arabia. Were there any strings attached in this deal? It is well documented that both Obama's father and stepfather were Muslims, his school registration in Indonesia shows him as a Muslim. Persy Sutton, former president of Brooklyn Borrow appeared on video, on U-tube, and stated that he was approached by Mr. Al Mansur, known radical Muslim activist, who disclosed that the royal family of Saudi Arabia is supporting Mr. Obama and mr. Sutton was asked to provide a letter of recommendation to Harvard law school for Mr. Obama. Was there a deal made in this sale of GE plastics to BISA not to provide any negative coverage to a protege of Saudi Arabia? The Board of Microsoft and Mr. Bill Gates himself and the Board of GE together with the Board of NBC and MSNBC and all their reporters need to take a stand and demand production of necessary documents from Mr. Obama, they need to demand that he step down or be removed if he refuses to provide such documents. Same goes to (AOL)Time Warner Board that purchased Turner Broadcasting, that owns CNN. Same goes to Westinghouse, CBS, Disney, ABC, Clearchannel communications and other conglomerates. Most of our media is owned by a handful of large companies. If those companies do not provide truthful reporting and all of their journalists and anchormen are reading from the same script like a herd of zombies, we the People of the United States of America, 300 million strong need to de-monopolise our media, we need to boycott them and write to all of the law enforcement: FBI, Homeland Security, Secret Service, State Attorney's offices, US attorney's office and demand immediate investigation. We cannot have a foreigner in charge of the US army, with his finger on the red button, the red button that controls the largest nuclear weapon arsenal in the world.
By Orly Taitz drorly.blogspot.com
you can send responses and comments to dr_taitz@yahoo.com (short responses please)
1. Philip J Berg, PA An answer from Barack Obama is due by Dec.1
2. Leo C. Donofrio, NJ The case is scheduled for conference by all 9 judges on Dec 5
3.Chris Strunck, NY filed with SCOTUS last week
4. Cort Wrotnowski, CT (second case)filed yesterday.
many more to come...
As explained earlier, Hawaii allows one to obtain a Certification of Hawaiian Live Birth based on a statement of one relative only. It means,that while Obama was born in Kenya, his grandma or grandpa could've simply gone to the Health Department in HI and stated that he was born in Hi and would've obtained a valid birth certificate. Additionally, Hi statue 338.176 allows residents of HI to register in Hi birth of their children, that were actually born in other states or other foreign countries. This statue is based on previous statues, going back to 1911, when Hi citizens worked abroad and wanted to preserve Hi citizenship for their children.
There is no corroborating evidence, no birthing records from any hospital in Hi, on the other hand there are affidavits and statements from Obama's paternal grandmother Sarah Obama, his half brother and half sister and even ambassador of Kenya His Excellency Ogengo, stating that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya.
There are numerous other facts showing split allegiance for Mr. Obama, having British, Kenyan and Indonesian citizenship and simply the fact that his father was a British citizen at the time of Obama's birth, which negates his Natural Born Status and makes him ineligible to be the president of the US(Kenya was a British protectorate in 1961).
The most nauseating and most distressing factor in the Obamagate is a total lack of decency of the main stream media, that was lining up to kiss Obama's feet instead of asking him tough questions. The media is complicit in this Constitutional crisis. Now there are more and more calls to license media outlets and pollsters. If they are found to be misinforming the public, hiding matters of National importance in order to manipulate the results of the National elections, the media outlets that engage in such behavior should be stripped of their licensees. Additionally, if indeed fraud was committed, the media is guilty of aiding and abetting commission of fraud. If a foreign citizen is certified as a winner of the presidential election and a foreign citizen is put in charge of the US Army, that is treason and everyone complicit should be investigated and properly punished.
Each and every US citizen needs to send letters, e-mails, faxes, call all 50 Secretaries of States, all 50 Governors all 538 Electors, all 100 senators and all 435 representatives and demand that they do not certify this election until Mr. Obama signs a consent for release of all the necessary documents: original BC in HI, that shows the name of the Hospital and the name and signature of the doctor, birthing records from the hospital, any and all passports with all the immigration stamps, college enrollment records from Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, responses from the embassies of Great Britain, Kenya and Indonesia and resolution in the Supreme Court of all the legal actions relating to his citizenship. If this is not done, and Mr. Obama is certified, everyone involved in the certification process is guilty of aiding and abetting commission of fraud and possibly aiding and abetting commission of treason.
Every decent, law abiding citizen of this country needs to keep calling and writing to all of the media and all of the advertisers and sponsors of media that refuses to go on the air, on TV and refuses to cover this Constitutional crisis of monumental proportions. Tell all the advertisers and sponsors that they need to boycott all the media that refuses to provide us the truth. Lets blackout the media that gave us the blackout of the truth.
There is a step in the right direction. Recently Greta van Sustren (Fox)on her blog Greta-wire demanded production of the original birth certificates by all the major candidates. This first step has to be followed by an open discussion on the air since only a small number of viewers read he blog. Mr. Rupert Murdock (owner of Fox) and his reporters Sean Hannitty, Bill O'Reilly, Laura Ingram, Glenn Beck need to show decency and journalistic integrity and demand production of documents from Mr. Obama prior to certification on December the 15Th.
MSNBC has published an article on the Internet about two lawsuits currently in front of the Supreme Court challenging Mr. Obama's qualifications for presidency, that's a baby step in the right direction, however nothing was said on the air. Why? Is there any financial or other interest involved in putting this man in the White House? From what I understand MSNBC is jointly owned by Microsoft and GE. Last year, in summer of 2007 GE has sold for reported 11.6 Billion it's GE Plastics division to Basic Industries of Saudi Arabia. Were there any strings attached in this deal? It is well documented that both Obama's father and stepfather were Muslims, his school registration in Indonesia shows him as a Muslim. Persy Sutton, former president of Brooklyn Borrow appeared on video, on U-tube, and stated that he was approached by Mr. Al Mansur, known radical Muslim activist, who disclosed that the royal family of Saudi Arabia is supporting Mr. Obama and mr. Sutton was asked to provide a letter of recommendation to Harvard law school for Mr. Obama. Was there a deal made in this sale of GE plastics to BISA not to provide any negative coverage to a protege of Saudi Arabia? The Board of Microsoft and Mr. Bill Gates himself and the Board of GE together with the Board of NBC and MSNBC and all their reporters need to take a stand and demand production of necessary documents from Mr. Obama, they need to demand that he step down or be removed if he refuses to provide such documents. Same goes to (AOL)Time Warner Board that purchased Turner Broadcasting, that owns CNN. Same goes to Westinghouse, CBS, Disney, ABC, Clearchannel communications and other conglomerates. Most of our media is owned by a handful of large companies. If those companies do not provide truthful reporting and all of their journalists and anchormen are reading from the same script like a herd of zombies, we the People of the United States of America, 300 million strong need to de-monopolise our media, we need to boycott them and write to all of the law enforcement: FBI, Homeland Security, Secret Service, State Attorney's offices, US attorney's office and demand immediate investigation. We cannot have a foreigner in charge of the US army, with his finger on the red button, the red button that controls the largest nuclear weapon arsenal in the world.
By Orly Taitz drorly.blogspot.com
you can send responses and comments to dr_taitz@yahoo.com (short responses please)
Wednesday, November 26, 2008
MSNBC covers the story
This piece by Pete Williams appeared on the MSNBC website on November 26, 2008:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/26/1689515.aspx
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/26/1689515.aspx
A letter from a reader
msjkulig430 said...
Orly,
I think what you are doing is great! Thanks for taking ACTION!
This is unbelievable, and that fact that Our government is allowing this charade to occur is sickening. But what is beyond sickening, falling into the category of food-poisoning nauseating. You know the kind of profuse vomiting accompanied by a fever, a cold sweat and uncontrollable chills, is that Americans seem to already be use to it.
I hear comments all around the net. "It figures!" "What did you expect?" "That's our government for you." "That's American politics." "Why isn't anyone reporting this?" "What can we do?" Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!"
To me, these comments are even more nauseating, if that could even be possible. Since WHEN did America become a nation where we all throw our hands up and make jokes when our freedom, liberty, retirement and children's future hang in the balance.
People need to know that we are at WAR. I am not talking about the war in Iraq. I am talking about the war right here in our own Country. Soldier's in fox holes don't crack jokes when the enemy is shooting at them. They don't chuckle when a grenade falls in the fox hole and say, "we knew it was going to happen eventually, we might as well just stay here and get blown to pieces." Yet, that is what more and more Americans seem to be doing EVERY SINGLE DAY.
And that something is NOTHING! I am not saying everyone is doing nothing. You are, I am. However, most Americans bitch and moan and surf the net to find the latest updates on Presidential Eligibility Lawsuits and Bush Pardons and go to work the next day and bitch about the high price of gas and skyrocketing health insurance premiums and their 50 hour work week and the cost of their kid braces and then....that's it!
Do they write their congressman? No! Do they write the Supreme Court Judges? No! Do they join a Grassroots group? No! To they organize others in their community? No! Do they contact the media? No!
They sit back and wait for OTHERS to do it. Then they bitch about the results when NO ONE else does.
I'm really, really sick of it! I'm food-poisoning nauseated that most Americans talk the talk, but DON'T walk the walk and expect things will just miraculously change for the better. Reality Check: They WON'T!
Our Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they could see how complacent we have become and how much we take our freedom for granted.
When will Americans learn that if we don't spend the time and energy into fighting to take back our Country NOW, there will be no Country left to take back in the future. And, it will be the NEAR future, I guarantee you! If we continue on the path that we are on, we will see the demise of this Country in our lifetime.
So people not taking ACTION, turn off your idiot box, put down the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly, cancel that three day weekend and start taking ACTION!
Do something...ANYTHING! There are many like-minded people across this country that refuses to throw up their hands, so get off your ass and go find them.
Looking for a place, to DO SOMETHING, join
www.wethepeopleusa.ning.com. It's only a few weeks old and there are over 400 members.
November 26, 2008 12:35 AM
Orly,
I think what you are doing is great! Thanks for taking ACTION!
This is unbelievable, and that fact that Our government is allowing this charade to occur is sickening. But what is beyond sickening, falling into the category of food-poisoning nauseating. You know the kind of profuse vomiting accompanied by a fever, a cold sweat and uncontrollable chills, is that Americans seem to already be use to it.
I hear comments all around the net. "It figures!" "What did you expect?" "That's our government for you." "That's American politics." "Why isn't anyone reporting this?" "What can we do?" Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!"
To me, these comments are even more nauseating, if that could even be possible. Since WHEN did America become a nation where we all throw our hands up and make jokes when our freedom, liberty, retirement and children's future hang in the balance.
People need to know that we are at WAR. I am not talking about the war in Iraq. I am talking about the war right here in our own Country. Soldier's in fox holes don't crack jokes when the enemy is shooting at them. They don't chuckle when a grenade falls in the fox hole and say, "we knew it was going to happen eventually, we might as well just stay here and get blown to pieces." Yet, that is what more and more Americans seem to be doing EVERY SINGLE DAY.
And that something is NOTHING! I am not saying everyone is doing nothing. You are, I am. However, most Americans bitch and moan and surf the net to find the latest updates on Presidential Eligibility Lawsuits and Bush Pardons and go to work the next day and bitch about the high price of gas and skyrocketing health insurance premiums and their 50 hour work week and the cost of their kid braces and then....that's it!
Do they write their congressman? No! Do they write the Supreme Court Judges? No! Do they join a Grassroots group? No! To they organize others in their community? No! Do they contact the media? No!
They sit back and wait for OTHERS to do it. Then they bitch about the results when NO ONE else does.
I'm really, really sick of it! I'm food-poisoning nauseated that most Americans talk the talk, but DON'T walk the walk and expect things will just miraculously change for the better. Reality Check: They WON'T!
Our Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they could see how complacent we have become and how much we take our freedom for granted.
When will Americans learn that if we don't spend the time and energy into fighting to take back our Country NOW, there will be no Country left to take back in the future. And, it will be the NEAR future, I guarantee you! If we continue on the path that we are on, we will see the demise of this Country in our lifetime.
So people not taking ACTION, turn off your idiot box, put down the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly, cancel that three day weekend and start taking ACTION!
Do something...ANYTHING! There are many like-minded people across this country that refuses to throw up their hands, so get off your ass and go find them.
Looking for a place, to DO SOMETHING, join
www.wethepeopleusa.ning.com. It's only a few weeks old and there are over 400 members.
November 26, 2008 12:35 AM
Constitutional Scholar herb titus states: Electors have to investigate Obama
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OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Proofin' the prez: Who's in charge?
Constitutional lawyer says electors have duty to investigate citizenship
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Posted: November 24, 2008
9:48 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Barack Obama
A one-time vice presidential candidate who is considered an expert on the U.S. Constitution says it is up the electors from the 50 states to make certain President-elect Barack Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen before they cast votes for him in the Electoral College Dec. 15.
"If they do their duty, they would make sure that if they cast a vote for Mr. Obama, that Mr. Obama is a natural-born citizen," Herb Titus, the Constitution Party's running mate to Howard Phillips in 1996, told WND today.
"I think it should be resolved. The duty is in the Electoral College. Every Obama elector that is committed to casting a vote on the 15th of December, they have a constitutional duty to make certain whether Mr. Obama is a natural-born citizen," he said.
If the electors fail their duty and Obama proves ultimately to fail the eligibility requirement of the U.S. Constitution, there would be only the laborious, contentious and cumbersome process of impeachment available to those who would wish to follow the Constitution, he suggested.
The issue of Obama's citizenship has been in the news for weeks as multiple legal claims have asserted the Democrat is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. There have been claims he was born in Kenya, that he's a British subject because of his father and that he lost his citizenship in Indonesia.
(Story continues below)
Two of the cases are pending before the U.S. Supreme Court and several others that have fallen by the wayside.
Also, thousands of people are jumping aboard a petition that demands documentation of Obama's eligibility to hold the highest office in the U.S., not just assurances from party officials.
Already, more than 75,000 petitioners have joined the effort coordinated by WND founder and editor Joseph Farah.
To participate, sign the petition here.
A report accompanying Farah's petition explains the many questions raised about Obama's eligibility, from an apparently fabricated "Certification of Live Birth" posted online to questions about what nation's passport he used to travel to Pakistan.
One case is scheduled for a conference among U.S. Supreme Court justices Dec. 5. Conferences are private meetings of the justices at which they review cases and decide which ones to accept for formal review. The Supreme Court's website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, over not only Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero.
Do you agree with contentions made in "The Audacity of Deceit" about the impact of an Obama White House on the United States?
The case, unsuccessful at the state level, was submitted to Justice David Souter, who rejected it. The case then was resubmitted to Justice Clarence Thomas for conference Dec. 5.
Titus holds a law degree cum laude from Harvard, is admitted to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court and a long list of federal court districts, and helped found a law school. He told WND the framers of the Constitution specifically wanted the electors, citizen voters from all the states, to determine the presidency to avoid chief executives who are indebted to political parties or court decisions.
In 1788, Titus noted, Alexander Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers on the issue of the presidential election that "nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption."
"They have not made the appointment of the president to depend on any pre-existing bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment," Hamilton wrote. "And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the president in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors.
"Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single state; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States," Hamilton wrote in support of the concept of the Electoral College.
If the electors fail, Titus said, "I think it moots the point."
"I don't think there is anything in the Constitution [that would allow a challenge based on a candidate's constitutional qualifications.]
"It would politically undermine Obama's re-election … and there may be an impeachment if someone concluded he deliberately misled the people, and knew he was not a natural-born citizen," he said.
Titus said the evidence clearly shows there are questions about Obama's birth that should be resolved. But he said he doesn't believe the courts will do anything, nor should they.
"If it's revealed it's only going to be [revealed because of] investigative journalism or by Obama himself," he said.
"It's only the Electoral College that has the duty and authority to determine is a person is qualified to be president," Titus said.
"We should act accordingly, get the names of all the electors, including McCain's electors, and urge them to do their duty," he said.
He said, however, the bottom line is that there are some people who would rather ignore the Constitution than dispense with a candidate who may be unqualified.
"Politically, [being ineligible] would be a very serious problem for [Obama,]" he said. "But there also would be people who would only shrug."
"It's up to the people. Essentially the Constitution is a covenant of the people with their government. If the people don't insist on their government officials abiding by the covenant, I don't know what you can do," he said.
Titus said the basis of a natural-born requirement traces back to the Old Testament, where Moses prophesied about the people of Israel getting a king.
"The whole notion of a natural-born citizen is designed for the purpose of making sure that the chief executive would not have politically divided loyalties," he said.
Supreme Court would decide?
Meanwhile, a veteran law enforcement officer and director of criminal justice courses says he believes the 2008 election results ultimately could come down to a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, which issued a ruling eight years ago that helped put George W. Bush in the White House.
The assessment comes from James H. Hafeman, a veteran of decades in law enforcement who supervised an armed security force, taught criminal justice and directed criminal justice programs in Michigan. He submitted a commentary to WND, outlining his evidence.
Hafeman said his argument is based mostly on the U.S. Constitution, which outlines the requirements for eligibility for president, including that the candidate be a "natural-born" citizen.
While replacing a president is outlined in the Constitution, he warned the replacement of a president-elect who is found to be ineligible isn't simple.
"While many have speculated that an official declaration of Obama’s ineligibility may lead to the appointment of Joe Biden as president, the speculation is inaccurate. Since it was up to the respective political party to properly vet their candidate before a primary election, they may not qualify to be rewarded for their lack of integrity. Additionally there is no separate balloting for president and vice-president; they share the same slot. Obama's ineligibility would effectively void the entire Obama-Biden ticket," he said.
Therefore, he said, other provisions likely would come into play.
"We already know that if two candidates have an equal number of Electoral College votes, the members of the House of Representatives will collectively choose the president. Many citizens have been led to believe that it is the responsibility of the House is to decide the winner by majority vote, but that is incorrect. Members of the House of Representatives from each state would meet in a state-caucus type of meeting and vote with all congressional members from their respective state. The majority of the state's delegation would only have only one vote. Out of the 50 votes allotted among the House of Representative members, 25 plus a minimum of one vote would be required to elect the president," he wrote.
William Ball, a political science professor at Northern Michigan University, has said, "The results of the Electoral College are sent to the president of the Senate, but if there is no winner, then the House of Representatives, not the whole Congress, decides who will be president. But, in this process the State of Vermont or Wyoming with their one vote each would have as much power as California or New York."
Hafeman said the Constitution demands the same process for a situation in which a seated president becomes ineligible, but Obama won't be inaugurated until Jan. 20.
"This may be the first known case where a presidential candidate intentionally attempted to side step the specific requirements of the Constitution in order to run for the office of president," Hafeman said. "The 12th Amendment is quite clear. If the president is found ineligible, the vice-president shall become the president. However, the key is the 'president,' not the president-elect. In other words, if Mr. Obama is found ineligible to hold the office prior to his January 20, 2009, inauguration, the 12th Amendment would not necessarily be the guiding instrument for the Supreme Court.
"The Justices would be free to make their own determination regarding the specifics of the general election," Hafeman wrote.
So, Hafeman concluded, the high court may have to make some decisions.
If the worse fears about Obama's birthplace prove true, Hafeman said, the court will have to decide the consequences for providing inaccurate assurances of eligibility.
"Second, what process will be used to designate someone who will assume the office?" he wrote.
"Since all the secretaries of state will be forced to nullify the Obama-Biden ticket, the Electoral College votes would go to the next highest contender. The principle would award McCain-Palin with the total possible Electoral College votes – all 538 electors," he suggested.
"In the national-interest scenario, the question that might be asked by the Democrats may focus on the question as to whether or not they could hold an emergency national convention in order for the party to re-nominate a president and/or another vice-president candidate. If the Supreme Court declares the entire election invalid, then that may be a possibility, but it is highly unlikely since every other presidential team on the ticket were legitimate," he wrote.
"The Supreme Court may decide a new election is in order and would have to waive the two-term limitations of George W. Bush so that he can remain in office until the conclusion of the election. The continuation of his term is a viable course of action, but it may not be an action favored by the Supreme Court. Instead, the justices may simply view the anomaly as a political race with an illegitimate and disqualified opponent, which would result in a win for the McCain-Palin ticket."
On WND's new forum page, the level of frustration was rising. Dozens contributed their thoughts immediately after the forum was posted:
"What makes Obama non-respon[sive] to the simplest of requests?" asked one reader. "Does he think that it is politically incorrect to ask for authentication of the myriad of facts about himself … Is he testing the grounds to see how far he can play with this charade?"
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OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Proofin' the prez: Who's in charge?
Constitutional lawyer says electors have duty to investigate citizenship
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Posted: November 24, 2008
9:48 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Barack Obama
A one-time vice presidential candidate who is considered an expert on the U.S. Constitution says it is up the electors from the 50 states to make certain President-elect Barack Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen before they cast votes for him in the Electoral College Dec. 15.
"If they do their duty, they would make sure that if they cast a vote for Mr. Obama, that Mr. Obama is a natural-born citizen," Herb Titus, the Constitution Party's running mate to Howard Phillips in 1996, told WND today.
"I think it should be resolved. The duty is in the Electoral College. Every Obama elector that is committed to casting a vote on the 15th of December, they have a constitutional duty to make certain whether Mr. Obama is a natural-born citizen," he said.
If the electors fail their duty and Obama proves ultimately to fail the eligibility requirement of the U.S. Constitution, there would be only the laborious, contentious and cumbersome process of impeachment available to those who would wish to follow the Constitution, he suggested.
The issue of Obama's citizenship has been in the news for weeks as multiple legal claims have asserted the Democrat is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. There have been claims he was born in Kenya, that he's a British subject because of his father and that he lost his citizenship in Indonesia.
(Story continues below)
Two of the cases are pending before the U.S. Supreme Court and several others that have fallen by the wayside.
Also, thousands of people are jumping aboard a petition that demands documentation of Obama's eligibility to hold the highest office in the U.S., not just assurances from party officials.
Already, more than 75,000 petitioners have joined the effort coordinated by WND founder and editor Joseph Farah.
To participate, sign the petition here.
A report accompanying Farah's petition explains the many questions raised about Obama's eligibility, from an apparently fabricated "Certification of Live Birth" posted online to questions about what nation's passport he used to travel to Pakistan.
One case is scheduled for a conference among U.S. Supreme Court justices Dec. 5. Conferences are private meetings of the justices at which they review cases and decide which ones to accept for formal review. The Supreme Court's website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, over not only Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero.
Do you agree with contentions made in "The Audacity of Deceit" about the impact of an Obama White House on the United States?
The case, unsuccessful at the state level, was submitted to Justice David Souter, who rejected it. The case then was resubmitted to Justice Clarence Thomas for conference Dec. 5.
Titus holds a law degree cum laude from Harvard, is admitted to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court and a long list of federal court districts, and helped found a law school. He told WND the framers of the Constitution specifically wanted the electors, citizen voters from all the states, to determine the presidency to avoid chief executives who are indebted to political parties or court decisions.
In 1788, Titus noted, Alexander Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers on the issue of the presidential election that "nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption."
"They have not made the appointment of the president to depend on any pre-existing bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment," Hamilton wrote. "And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the president in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors.
"Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single state; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States," Hamilton wrote in support of the concept of the Electoral College.
If the electors fail, Titus said, "I think it moots the point."
"I don't think there is anything in the Constitution [that would allow a challenge based on a candidate's constitutional qualifications.]
"It would politically undermine Obama's re-election … and there may be an impeachment if someone concluded he deliberately misled the people, and knew he was not a natural-born citizen," he said.
Titus said the evidence clearly shows there are questions about Obama's birth that should be resolved. But he said he doesn't believe the courts will do anything, nor should they.
"If it's revealed it's only going to be [revealed because of] investigative journalism or by Obama himself," he said.
"It's only the Electoral College that has the duty and authority to determine is a person is qualified to be president," Titus said.
"We should act accordingly, get the names of all the electors, including McCain's electors, and urge them to do their duty," he said.
He said, however, the bottom line is that there are some people who would rather ignore the Constitution than dispense with a candidate who may be unqualified.
"Politically, [being ineligible] would be a very serious problem for [Obama,]" he said. "But there also would be people who would only shrug."
"It's up to the people. Essentially the Constitution is a covenant of the people with their government. If the people don't insist on their government officials abiding by the covenant, I don't know what you can do," he said.
Titus said the basis of a natural-born requirement traces back to the Old Testament, where Moses prophesied about the people of Israel getting a king.
"The whole notion of a natural-born citizen is designed for the purpose of making sure that the chief executive would not have politically divided loyalties," he said.
Supreme Court would decide?
Meanwhile, a veteran law enforcement officer and director of criminal justice courses says he believes the 2008 election results ultimately could come down to a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, which issued a ruling eight years ago that helped put George W. Bush in the White House.
The assessment comes from James H. Hafeman, a veteran of decades in law enforcement who supervised an armed security force, taught criminal justice and directed criminal justice programs in Michigan. He submitted a commentary to WND, outlining his evidence.
Hafeman said his argument is based mostly on the U.S. Constitution, which outlines the requirements for eligibility for president, including that the candidate be a "natural-born" citizen.
While replacing a president is outlined in the Constitution, he warned the replacement of a president-elect who is found to be ineligible isn't simple.
"While many have speculated that an official declaration of Obama’s ineligibility may lead to the appointment of Joe Biden as president, the speculation is inaccurate. Since it was up to the respective political party to properly vet their candidate before a primary election, they may not qualify to be rewarded for their lack of integrity. Additionally there is no separate balloting for president and vice-president; they share the same slot. Obama's ineligibility would effectively void the entire Obama-Biden ticket," he said.
Therefore, he said, other provisions likely would come into play.
"We already know that if two candidates have an equal number of Electoral College votes, the members of the House of Representatives will collectively choose the president. Many citizens have been led to believe that it is the responsibility of the House is to decide the winner by majority vote, but that is incorrect. Members of the House of Representatives from each state would meet in a state-caucus type of meeting and vote with all congressional members from their respective state. The majority of the state's delegation would only have only one vote. Out of the 50 votes allotted among the House of Representative members, 25 plus a minimum of one vote would be required to elect the president," he wrote.
William Ball, a political science professor at Northern Michigan University, has said, "The results of the Electoral College are sent to the president of the Senate, but if there is no winner, then the House of Representatives, not the whole Congress, decides who will be president. But, in this process the State of Vermont or Wyoming with their one vote each would have as much power as California or New York."
Hafeman said the Constitution demands the same process for a situation in which a seated president becomes ineligible, but Obama won't be inaugurated until Jan. 20.
"This may be the first known case where a presidential candidate intentionally attempted to side step the specific requirements of the Constitution in order to run for the office of president," Hafeman said. "The 12th Amendment is quite clear. If the president is found ineligible, the vice-president shall become the president. However, the key is the 'president,' not the president-elect. In other words, if Mr. Obama is found ineligible to hold the office prior to his January 20, 2009, inauguration, the 12th Amendment would not necessarily be the guiding instrument for the Supreme Court.
"The Justices would be free to make their own determination regarding the specifics of the general election," Hafeman wrote.
So, Hafeman concluded, the high court may have to make some decisions.
If the worse fears about Obama's birthplace prove true, Hafeman said, the court will have to decide the consequences for providing inaccurate assurances of eligibility.
"Second, what process will be used to designate someone who will assume the office?" he wrote.
"Since all the secretaries of state will be forced to nullify the Obama-Biden ticket, the Electoral College votes would go to the next highest contender. The principle would award McCain-Palin with the total possible Electoral College votes – all 538 electors," he suggested.
"In the national-interest scenario, the question that might be asked by the Democrats may focus on the question as to whether or not they could hold an emergency national convention in order for the party to re-nominate a president and/or another vice-president candidate. If the Supreme Court declares the entire election invalid, then that may be a possibility, but it is highly unlikely since every other presidential team on the ticket were legitimate," he wrote.
"The Supreme Court may decide a new election is in order and would have to waive the two-term limitations of George W. Bush so that he can remain in office until the conclusion of the election. The continuation of his term is a viable course of action, but it may not be an action favored by the Supreme Court. Instead, the justices may simply view the anomaly as a political race with an illegitimate and disqualified opponent, which would result in a win for the McCain-Palin ticket."
On WND's new forum page, the level of frustration was rising. Dozens contributed their thoughts immediately after the forum was posted:
"What makes Obama non-respon[sive] to the simplest of requests?" asked one reader. "Does he think that it is politically incorrect to ask for authentication of the myriad of facts about himself … Is he testing the grounds to see how far he can play with this charade?"
Judge Moore
Moore said, "If a person is not qualified, he's not qualified. It doesn't matter who it is, Republican, Democrat, black or white, rich or poor."
He added the members of the Electoral College have an obligation to verify Obama's qualifications before voting for him.
But he said the dispute may end up with court action, too.
"The courts are there to uphold the law. People have a right to change the Constitution. But until then it's the rule of law," he said.
"I don't see any reason a candidate who has such a serious question would not come forward with the truth about where he was born," Moore said.
"The Supreme Court has to answer this. They have to do it by law and not by the popularity of a person. If we do that, we might as well throw the Constitution out the window," Moore said.
"[Obama] has the answer. He knows where he was born. If he tells something that's untrue that's another matter. It's not an Obama issue, it's an American issue. It's about the Constitution of the United States."
He added the members of the Electoral College have an obligation to verify Obama's qualifications before voting for him.
But he said the dispute may end up with court action, too.
"The courts are there to uphold the law. People have a right to change the Constitution. But until then it's the rule of law," he said.
"I don't see any reason a candidate who has such a serious question would not come forward with the truth about where he was born," Moore said.
"The Supreme Court has to answer this. They have to do it by law and not by the popularity of a person. If we do that, we might as well throw the Constitution out the window," Moore said.
"[Obama] has the answer. He knows where he was born. If he tells something that's untrue that's another matter. It's not an Obama issue, it's an American issue. It's about the Constitution of the United States."
over 700 hits in less then 2 days
It has been less then 2 days since the stat counter was installed and it shows 700 hits. A large number of readers visited the blog after the Joe Thunder interview on the Plains radio, FreedomMarch.org.
Dr. James David Manning-- Barack Hussein Obama is a Conman and a Forger
http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/manningreport.html
Please watch the Manning report (second half), brought to you by one of the most prominent African American leaders Dr. James David Manning. He calls Barack Hussein Obama, "a forger and a conman". He states that every congressman, senator and everybody in the media know, that Obama is not eligible to be the president. He blasts the media in being complicit in not reporting the truth and calls for regulation of the media. He states that Obama needs to be tried for years of crime. He ends by saying "you cannot hide cancer, this cancer is called Barack Hussein Obama"
Please watch the Manning report (second half), brought to you by one of the most prominent African American leaders Dr. James David Manning. He calls Barack Hussein Obama, "a forger and a conman". He states that every congressman, senator and everybody in the media know, that Obama is not eligible to be the president. He blasts the media in being complicit in not reporting the truth and calls for regulation of the media. He states that Obama needs to be tried for years of crime. He ends by saying "you cannot hide cancer, this cancer is called Barack Hussein Obama"
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
Petitions
The public interest in the Obama Eligibility Controversy can be gauged by the number of petitions that are circulating. A few of the petitions that have been created on the internet are listed at
http://saveourrights.wikia.com/wiki/Overview#Petitions
Three in particular are of interest. A petition that allows signatories to also send email to their members of congress and senators has grown by over 100,000 in about six weeks:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis
Even more impressive is the World Net Daily petition, which has higher visibility, and has collected over 70,000 signatures in about 4 days:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550
Both of these petitions need to be publicized as much as possible, and as many people as possible encouraged to sign these to demostrate the level of interest of the public in this issue.
Robert Stevens
http://saveourrights.wikia.com/wiki/Overview#Petitions
Three in particular are of interest. A petition that allows signatories to also send email to their members of congress and senators has grown by over 100,000 in about six weeks:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis
Even more impressive is the World Net Daily petition, which has higher visibility, and has collected over 70,000 signatures in about 4 days:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550
Both of these petitions need to be publicized as much as possible, and as many people as possible encouraged to sign these to demostrate the level of interest of the public in this issue.
A new petition that has been created appears at
Robert Stevens
Monday, November 24, 2008
For the second time journalists demand answers on BO's BC from the White House
White House Press Secretary Avoids Answering Question About Obama Birth Certificate
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
November 24, 2008
Press Briefing by Deputy Press Secretary Tony Fratto
Q Good. The CEO of WorldNetDaily has called on the President-elect to release a birth certificate listing the hospital and names of parents. The White House believes that this would fully satisfy the constitutional requirement, don't you?
MR. FRATTO: I don't think I have anything to say on that, Lester, and I think we're going to end it right there.
Thank you.
END 11:35 A.M. EST
Link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/11/20081124-1.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
November 24, 2008
Press Briefing by Deputy Press Secretary Tony Fratto
Q Good. The CEO of WorldNetDaily has called on the President-elect to release a birth certificate listing the hospital and names of parents. The White House believes that this would fully satisfy the constitutional requirement, don't you?
MR. FRATTO: I don't think I have anything to say on that, Lester, and I think we're going to end it right there.
Thank you.
END 11:35 A.M. EST
Link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/11/20081124-1.html
We need to apply more pressure on the media, we need the boycott
Greta van Susteren demands Obama's BC. It looks like writing campaign of thousands of volunteers, threatening boycott of media and their advertisers is starting to work, and we need to apply more pressure demanding decency and journalistic integrity from the media and disclosure of info on all the law suits against Obama or boycott of the ones that refuse to do so, let's boycott them and their advertisers and sponsors. Greta and others need to have some guts and some backbone and talk about it on the air, not just on their blogs, where it is safe,so that millions of viewers know that there is an issue of Obama being a British citizen at birth (based on his fathers citizenship), that the court will hear the Donofrio case on December 5. 300 million Americans have a right to know and need to be prepared that there is a good possibility that the court will decide that Obama cannot be the next president of the US and we need to move quickly to resolve this issue: will it be McCain or whether there will be a new election and probably the contest between Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney.
Mainstream Media-Greta Van Susteren demands Original Birth Certificates from Obama and Other Candidates
October 24th, 2008 9:20 AM Eastern
OK … the internet rumors about the birth certificate: let’s end the rumors and the viral nature of them!
by Greta Van Susteren
Of course I know about all the internet gossip about Senator Obama’s birth. Many of you (thousands?) have written me saying he was not born in the USA ( a Constitutional requirement for President) …. the rumors are flying around the internet and overloading my inbox and is viral. It doesn’t stop! I have thought the emails a waste of keyboard time and have ignored them.
However, since the emails just won’t stop…and since it really is a topic that should be put to rest and can be done with such ease, I now think Senator Obama should release his birth certificate but I also think, to be fair, so should the other 3….yes, all 4.
So, let’s have it! All 4 need to release their birth certificates to prove each was born in the USA and thus constitutionally able to serve as President. Let’s insist that all 4 release birth certificates and put the matter to rest! (and yes, stop the emails to me!)
Until this is done, the rumors simply will not stop and rumors are not fair…it is not fair to Senator Obama and he also should not be blackmailed into producing the records…so, if all 4 must produce, that seems fair.
Let’s see them….and then let’s move on.
OK … the internet rumors about the birth certificate: let’s end the rumors and the viral nature of them!
by Greta Van Susteren
Of course I know about all the internet gossip about Senator Obama’s birth. Many of you (thousands?) have written me saying he was not born in the USA ( a Constitutional requirement for President) …. the rumors are flying around the internet and overloading my inbox and is viral. It doesn’t stop! I have thought the emails a waste of keyboard time and have ignored them.
However, since the emails just won’t stop…and since it really is a topic that should be put to rest and can be done with such ease, I now think Senator Obama should release his birth certificate but I also think, to be fair, so should the other 3….yes, all 4.
So, let’s have it! All 4 need to release their birth certificates to prove each was born in the USA and thus constitutionally able to serve as President. Let’s insist that all 4 release birth certificates and put the matter to rest! (and yes, stop the emails to me!)
Until this is done, the rumors simply will not stop and rumors are not fair…it is not fair to Senator Obama and he also should not be blackmailed into producing the records…so, if all 4 must produce, that seems fair.
Let’s see them….and then let’s move on.
Media Coverage
The shows I've been at are as follows:
Jan Mickelson 515-245-8862
Lan Lamphere 405-307-0752
Peter Boyles 303-847-6267
Wiley Drake 714-865-8132
Joe Thunder FreedomMarch.org
will be back on Peter Boyles
Tom Hoefling
was on a station in Baltimore
2 stations in NY ( one of them is Steven Malzberg)
Wiley Drake KNBC
What's right what's wrong radio
articles in Orange County Register -largest Circulation here in OC
NBC Augusta, GA
Drudge report
World News Daily
Mission Viejo dispatch
all of the bloggosphere
yesterday at the White House press conference Bush's press secretary Dana Perrina was asked, if Pres. Bush is concerned about Barack Obama not being eligible for presidency based on the fact that according to the Alan Keyes law suit, he is not a natural born citizen, her response reportedly was "we think, we are fine on that'
Jan Mickelson 515-245-8862
Lan Lamphere 405-307-0752
Peter Boyles 303-847-6267
Wiley Drake 714-865-8132
Joe Thunder FreedomMarch.org
will be back on Peter Boyles
Tom Hoefling
was on a station in Baltimore
2 stations in NY ( one of them is Steven Malzberg)
Wiley Drake KNBC
What's right what's wrong radio
articles in Orange County Register -largest Circulation here in OC
NBC Augusta, GA
Drudge report
World News Daily
Mission Viejo dispatch
all of the bloggosphere
yesterday at the White House press conference Bush's press secretary Dana Perrina was asked, if Pres. Bush is concerned about Barack Obama not being eligible for presidency based on the fact that according to the Alan Keyes law suit, he is not a natural born citizen, her response reportedly was "we think, we are fine on that'
Call to Action
I believe we need to do the following: we need to write to all the governmental official listed in the attachments, including pres Bush, that due to the fact that Mr. Obama refused to provide proof of eligibility (Hawaii allows to issue birth certificates to children of Hawaiian residents, that are born abroad, and issue them based on a statement of one realtive only) , he cannot be certified as President and he cannot receive National Security CIA briefings. We believe all the Secretaries of State should give Mr. Obama 24 hours to sign the consent for release of any and all documents, verifying his eligibility, including, but not limited to a certified copy of his original birth certificate with the name and the signature of the doctor and the name of the hospital, certified copy of the birthing records from the hospital noted in the birth certificate, any and all passports with all the immigration stamps, application and registration forms from Columbia university, Harvard college, Occidental College and the schools in Indonesia, that Mr. Obama attended; and official response from the Governments of Great Britain, Kenya and Indonesia in regards to Mr. Obama's citizenship status in those countries. If Mr. Obama refuses to provide such consent, or if the consent is provided, but the documents show him to be ineligible, no Secretary of State and no Governor of State has any legal right to sign the Certificate of Ascertainment, no Elector has any legal right to sign a certificate of vote, since doing so will constitute aiding and abetting fraud in voting and punishable by up to 3 years in jail (California election code 18500) and similarly punishable by corresponding statutes in other states of the union, it possibly can be viewed as aiding and abeting commission of treason.This has to be forwarded to all the media outlets. We need to write to the media, that American citizens are reasonably relying on them to provide them with information in regards to such issues of National Importance. Refusal by Media to publish information in regards to Mr. Obama's status as a British Citizen by birth and other issues relating to his lack of eligibility to be the President of the US, is de facto aiding and abetting commission of fraud in voting and elections (see above).I believe we should contact all sponsors and all advertisers and all citizens that believe in the Constitution of this country an demand that they boycott all the media outlets that refuse to air this information that is akin to a Constitutional crisis. We should start a recall of all the Governors and Secretaries of States that sign the certificates of Ascertainment without proof of eligibility. No member of US military can be expected to risk his life under orders of a Commander in Chief, who was not willing to produce proof of his eligibility for office, no order or law signed by somebody, who was not proven to be eligible will be va
Inconsistancy in Obama's account of his mother's Whereabouts in August-September of 1961
University of Washington records place Stanley Ann Dunham in Washington State in Aug 1961 so how could she be in Honolulu 2680 miles away birthing Barack the same month.
When public record information from the University of Washington was added to Wikipedia's biography of Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Hussein Obama Jr's mother), it was removed in 35 minutes the first time and 34 minutes the second time. Read what Obama's team of internet thugs doesn't want you to know.
EMAIL:
"The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992
Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)
Sincerely,
Stuart Lau"
****************************************
Stuart Lau
University Registrar
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010
****************************************
And this:
Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962
The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University's response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.
Madolyne Lawson
Office of Public Records
206-543-9180
When public record information from the University of Washington was added to Wikipedia's biography of Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Hussein Obama Jr's mother), it was removed in 35 minutes the first time and 34 minutes the second time. Read what Obama's team of internet thugs doesn't want you to know.
EMAIL:
"The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992
Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)
Sincerely,
Stuart Lau"
****************************************
Stuart Lau
University Registrar
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010
****************************************
And this:
Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962
The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University's response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.
Madolyne Lawson
Office of Public Records
206-543-9180
Second legal action by Philip J Berg
Philip J Berg's action to de-certify Mr. Obama from the Presidential election ballot is currently awaiting resolution in the Supreme Court. Recently Mr. Berg has filed a second action as a realtor under False Claims Act. He is stating that according to affidavits obtained, Mr. Obama was born in Kenya and is not considered to be a Natural Born citizen and is not eligible to be the President of the US. Additionally, he states that there is no record of him going through the immigration and he is not the Naturalised citizen either, therefor he was not qualified to be the Senator either. Based on the above Mr. Obama has to refund the Federal government the salary and benefits that he received during his tenure as a senator. Mr. Berg is seeking a reward as a whistleblower, which might be around 15% of the total amount actually recovered by the government.
I have talked to Mr. Berg on the phone and questioned about this legal action. Mr. Berg stated that his main motivation is not the money, but rather applying pressure on Mr. Obama in order to force him to disclose necessary information and present the documents requested.
berg v. obama initial filings dct. DC.pdf (2181KB)
I have talked to Mr. Berg on the phone and questioned about this legal action. Mr. Berg stated that his main motivation is not the money, but rather applying pressure on Mr. Obama in order to force him to disclose necessary information and present the documents requested.
berg v. obama initial filings dct. DC.pdf (2181KB)
Sunday, November 23, 2008
Replies from the states about vetting candidates
Emails were sent to all the State Secretaries of State asking how their state checks the eligibility of their presidential candidates. After 8 days, 14 replies were received. None of these 14 states did any checking of the qualifications of the presidential candidates. In addition, others have posted similar replies from Secretaries of State in Colorado and Illinois.
To see the replies from each state to date, go to the following link:
http://saveourrights.wikia.com/wiki/Vetting_Candidates
To see the replies from each state to date, go to the following link:
http://saveourrights.wikia.com/wiki/Vetting_Candidates
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