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Saturday, January 24, 2009
I need your opinion on the date of the convention
It appears most people like the location, Dallas seems to be popular, however a concern was raised in that April 3-5 is the date for NASCAR races. Should we have a convention the same weekend or a different weekend. Is April 11-12 a good weekend?
Where Have all the Leaders Gone by Lee Iacocca
Interesting read. They say that Lee Iacocca paid back every bit of the money he borrowed from the government to save Chrysler. Now he's written this book and it looks like a good one.
Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from its death throes? He's now 82 years o ld and has a new book, 'Where Have All The Leaders Gone?'.
Lee Iacocca Says:
'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'Stay the course. '
Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America , not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the bums out!'
You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore.
The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq , the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the ' America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you? I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.) Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down. On September 11, 2001 , we needed a �strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand.
We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country. We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble. Our borders are like sieves. The middle class is being squeezed every which way. These are times that cry out for leadership. But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point. Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo? We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened. Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm. Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.
Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, what are we going to do about it? Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry. I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on Fox News will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change? Had Enough? Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope - I believe in America . In my lifetime, I've had the privilege of living through some of � America 's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises: The 'Great Depression,' 'World War II,' the 'Korean War,' the 'Kennedy Assassination,' the 'Vietnam War,' the 1970's oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11. If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a "Call to Action" for people who, like me, believe in America '. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the crap and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we 've had 'enough.' Make your own contribution by sending this to everyone you know and care about. It's our country, folks, and it's our future. Our future is at stake!!
Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from its death throes? He's now 82 years o ld and has a new book, 'Where Have All The Leaders Gone?'.
Lee Iacocca Says:
'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'Stay the course. '
Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America , not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the bums out!'
You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore.
The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq , the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the ' America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you? I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.) Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down. On September 11, 2001 , we needed a �strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand.
We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country. We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble. Our borders are like sieves. The middle class is being squeezed every which way. These are times that cry out for leadership. But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point. Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo? We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened. Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm. Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.
Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, what are we going to do about it? Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry. I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on Fox News will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change? Had Enough? Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope - I believe in America . In my lifetime, I've had the privilege of living through some of � America 's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises: The 'Great Depression,' 'World War II,' the 'Korean War,' the 'Kennedy Assassination,' the 'Vietnam War,' the 1970's oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11. If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a "Call to Action" for people who, like me, believe in America '. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the crap and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we 've had 'enough.' Make your own contribution by sending this to everyone you know and care about. It's our country, folks, and it's our future. Our future is at stake!!
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Important Defend our Freedoms convention
Dear fellow patriots,
I would like to explain that I continue pursuing legal avenues, however I am extremely concerned about the fact that with 32 legal actions filed so far, not one single legal action was heard on the merits, there wasn't one single judicial subpoena to unseal any of Obama's vital records. I am concerned about this private meeting Obama had with the Justices of the Supreme Court only a few days before hearing my case about his ineligibility.
Due to the above I feel we need to explore other avenues and find other ways to regain our constitutional freedoms that were hijacked by our ruling elite. One of this avenues is a coDefend Our Freedoms convention, tentatively scheduled for April 2-3, Dallas TX. We are now putting together an organizing committee. This is not a party convention, it is a movement and everybody is invited. If you want to preserve the constitution of this country, if you want to preserve your freedom of speech, your free(not lapdog) press, freedom of religion, freedom to redress your grievances in court, you better be part of this convention. If you want to preserve your freedoms, you better get off the couch and start moving and start fighting. Please e-mail me at dr_taitz@yahoo.com and let me know if you want to be on the organizing committee, let me know if you want to be plaintiffs in the military or National Guard legal action,let me know if you want to be part of the groups of patriots that will be visiting Congressmen, Senators and demanding investigation in Congress and Senate, if you will be part of a group visiting FBI and US Attorneys for Criminal Matters and demanding investigation.
Orly
I would like to explain that I continue pursuing legal avenues, however I am extremely concerned about the fact that with 32 legal actions filed so far, not one single legal action was heard on the merits, there wasn't one single judicial subpoena to unseal any of Obama's vital records. I am concerned about this private meeting Obama had with the Justices of the Supreme Court only a few days before hearing my case about his ineligibility.
Due to the above I feel we need to explore other avenues and find other ways to regain our constitutional freedoms that were hijacked by our ruling elite. One of this avenues is a coDefend Our Freedoms convention, tentatively scheduled for April 2-3, Dallas TX. We are now putting together an organizing committee. This is not a party convention, it is a movement and everybody is invited. If you want to preserve the constitution of this country, if you want to preserve your freedom of speech, your free(not lapdog) press, freedom of religion, freedom to redress your grievances in court, you better be part of this convention. If you want to preserve your freedoms, you better get off the couch and start moving and start fighting. Please e-mail me at dr_taitz@yahoo.com and let me know if you want to be on the organizing committee, let me know if you want to be plaintiffs in the military or National Guard legal action,let me know if you want to be part of the groups of patriots that will be visiting Congressmen, Senators and demanding investigation in Congress and Senate, if you will be part of a group visiting FBI and US Attorneys for Criminal Matters and demanding investigation.
Orly
From reader Dena
Bravo to you, Dr. Orly, for what you are doing for this country to uphold our Constitution. I have one question: "What on earth are the nine Justices thinking? Barack Obama is salivating to get rid of them - for them to retire so he can put his people in. What are the Justices thinking? He does not give a fig about them - and would replace them all now if he could. WAKE UP, SCOTUS! This man is a fraud - he is Constitutionally ineligible - and you have no political merit with him - except to do as he wants - which is look the other way. Meanwhile, millions of Americans are shouting "What is going on?! This man deceived us. If he is Constitutionally ineligible, ACT! I hope the Justices realize that they have nothing to gain with this man for falling into his scheme. These Judges are not appointed to think "politically" or "popularly" - they are appointed to uphold the US Constitution, the words our founding fathers penned to preserve and secure this country from danger. Never have we needed their words more than now - and never have we needed people with the strength to uphold those words - as much as now. Please do not give up, Dr. Orly - it has to be draining - and all the negative press - my hope is that the Justices will act on one of the lawsuits - I still believe in justice. I wonder, too - will our military step up? Will finally they declare they cannot serve and support a Constitutionally ineligible President? They have been placed in a difficult position. Will they finally say "enough!" God's speed to you, Dena M I have written many letters and will continue to - I do wish we could organize a peaceful march on Washington.
I am trying to get in touch with a woman, that posted on citizen Wells, that her husband is a clerk for SCOTUS call me 949-683-5411
Very important!! If you are a National Guardsman, particularly in Alabama or Tennessee, please contact me asap dr_orly.blogspot.com
From Carolyn in Chicago
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/orlys-retraction-request-against.html
Dear Sirs,
Medved needs to publicly apologize to Dr. Orly Taitz for the disparaging remarks made about her and her character (and the others who are fighting for our country). She is fighting a patriotic battle that Medved, if more informed, and if he really believes in fighting for the TRUTH, would probably support (if one believes his writings and based on his "supposedly conservative" talkshow).
It is unconscionable what he is doing. What is Medved afraid of? THE TRUTH? We are not conspiracy theorists, such as chasing Sasquatch(BigFoot) or UFO's. NO, we are DOCUMENTATION ACTIVIST. There is a big difference. "A theorist is someone who holds and expounds a theory. Often the elements of the theory are expostulated on things that may never be known. Was there another shooter on the grassy knowle, where is Osama Bin Laden? Those trying to vet Obama, even post inaugural, are not trying to prove a theory, here is why.
Most of those filing law suits to subpoena Obama's documents are lawyers, politicians, and military people, none who have ever been known to be conspiracy theorists on any subject. The attempt to put them in the same class with those who chase UFO sightings or those who are still looking for the Holy Grail is demeaning, and ridiculous."
See entire article here:
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-documentation-activists-not.html
or here
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bresciani/090122
There is documentation that is available; however, if you dig a little deeper into this issue, Barry Soetoro/Barak Obama has managed to BLOCK access to any documentation while spending $800 million and 3 law firms, to do so.
You must ask yourself WHY?
So... just because we would like to see proof of something, does not make us conspiracy theorists. I am certain that when Medved was hired that those in management did some investigation into his work history and background (ie. called his previous employer, verified his previous workplace, etc). I am sure that those seeking verification for that informatin about Medved WERE NOT considered "conspiracy theorists". Why? Because they were only seeking documentation about the person applying for the job. Barry Soetoro is sitting in the W.H. without ANYONE validating his documentation, or the fact that he probably is not a citizen of the U.S., much less a natural-born citizen.
PLEASE, you insult my intelligence and many others across this great nation who want ANSWERS! Use logic. This is a NO BRAINER. One must have credentials checked PRIOR to a job offer (elected or not).
In order make amends, Medved needs to allow Dr. Orly Taitz on his show for a MINUMUM of 2 hours, just to make sure she has enough time to explain the merits of the cases she has filed, and then time for the MILLIONS of Americans that will call in to ask questions. Think of it as an opportunity to EXPAND your listening audience. Or are those seeking the TRUTH not the audience you and Medved are seeking? Does Medved no longer understand, or care, about what the Constitution means and stands for?
Medved claims this as his slogan : "America - the Greatest Nation on God's Green Earth". Well, it NO LONGER is if we can allow for people to just ignore the law. Why would Medved support someone (many in this case) ignoring the highest law of our land? Does Medved no longer care about the law?
This is what is all boils down to.....THE LAW and will it be followed or not.
Please sirs, DO WHAT IS RIGHT, HONORABLE, JUST, and GOOD FOR AMERICA not just your pocketbook.
Carolyn Ruutelmann
cc:
http://www.michaelmedved.com/askmike
--
Carolyn
Dear Sirs,
Medved needs to publicly apologize to Dr. Orly Taitz for the disparaging remarks made about her and her character (and the others who are fighting for our country). She is fighting a patriotic battle that Medved, if more informed, and if he really believes in fighting for the TRUTH, would probably support (if one believes his writings and based on his "supposedly conservative" talkshow).
It is unconscionable what he is doing. What is Medved afraid of? THE TRUTH? We are not conspiracy theorists, such as chasing Sasquatch(BigFoot) or UFO's. NO, we are DOCUMENTATION ACTIVIST. There is a big difference. "A theorist is someone who holds and expounds a theory. Often the elements of the theory are expostulated on things that may never be known. Was there another shooter on the grassy knowle, where is Osama Bin Laden? Those trying to vet Obama, even post inaugural, are not trying to prove a theory, here is why.
Most of those filing law suits to subpoena Obama's documents are lawyers, politicians, and military people, none who have ever been known to be conspiracy theorists on any subject. The attempt to put them in the same class with those who chase UFO sightings or those who are still looking for the Holy Grail is demeaning, and ridiculous."
See entire article here:
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-documentation-activists-not.html
or here
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bresciani/090122
There is documentation that is available; however, if you dig a little deeper into this issue, Barry Soetoro/Barak Obama has managed to BLOCK access to any documentation while spending $800 million and 3 law firms, to do so.
You must ask yourself WHY?
So... just because we would like to see proof of something, does not make us conspiracy theorists. I am certain that when Medved was hired that those in management did some investigation into his work history and background (ie. called his previous employer, verified his previous workplace, etc). I am sure that those seeking verification for that informatin about Medved WERE NOT considered "conspiracy theorists". Why? Because they were only seeking documentation about the person applying for the job. Barry Soetoro is sitting in the W.H. without ANYONE validating his documentation, or the fact that he probably is not a citizen of the U.S., much less a natural-born citizen.
PLEASE, you insult my intelligence and many others across this great nation who want ANSWERS! Use logic. This is a NO BRAINER. One must have credentials checked PRIOR to a job offer (elected or not).
In order make amends, Medved needs to allow Dr. Orly Taitz on his show for a MINUMUM of 2 hours, just to make sure she has enough time to explain the merits of the cases she has filed, and then time for the MILLIONS of Americans that will call in to ask questions. Think of it as an opportunity to EXPAND your listening audience. Or are those seeking the TRUTH not the audience you and Medved are seeking? Does Medved no longer understand, or care, about what the Constitution means and stands for?
Medved claims this as his slogan : "America - the Greatest Nation on God's Green Earth". Well, it NO LONGER is if we can allow for people to just ignore the law. Why would Medved support someone (many in this case) ignoring the highest law of our land? Does Medved no longer care about the law?
This is what is all boils down to.....THE LAW and will it be followed or not.
Please sirs, DO WHAT IS RIGHT, HONORABLE, JUST, and GOOD FOR AMERICA not just your pocketbook.
Carolyn Ruutelmann
cc:
http://www.michaelmedved.com/askmike
--
Carolyn
Rick Warren blesses the imaculate deception, from reader James Sandquist
Hi Orly,
I thought you might appreciate my article on this Obomination of Desolation.
Can you tell your bloggers that my article entitled: "PRESIDENT OBAMA: RICK WARREN BLESSES THE IMMACULATE DECEPTION"
is now available online you can link to at:
http://andrewclarkson13.wordpress.com/ (January 24)
Remember Orly..months ago I warned you about Rick Warren... so glad you posted a letter regarding him on your site.
I am an expert on Rick Warren, having written two books exposing him.
So I appeal to you to add a link to my article exposing them both!
Kindest regards,
James Sundquist
Director
Rock Salt Publishing
I thought you might appreciate my article on this Obomination of Desolation.
Can you tell your bloggers that my article entitled: "PRESIDENT OBAMA: RICK WARREN BLESSES THE IMMACULATE DECEPTION"
is now available online you can link to at:
http://andrewclarkson13.wordpress.com/ (January 24)
Remember Orly..months ago I warned you about Rick Warren... so glad you posted a letter regarding him on your site.
I am an expert on Rick Warren, having written two books exposing him.
So I appeal to you to add a link to my article exposing them both!
Kindest regards,
James Sundquist
Director
Rock Salt Publishing
Follow up on the letter to FBI from senator Lamar Alexander
I saw a comment that Senator Alexander is passing the buck, but I believe that this is a move in the right direction. I would ask everybody to make a copy of this letter and bring it with you to your meetings with your Senators and Congressmen and demand that all of them write such letters to FBI and US attorney's offices and demand formal investigation into the massive fraud committed by Obama. When FBI and US attorney get letters from a 100 senators and 455 congressmen, they will be more willing to move, investigate, subpoena the original BC, immigration records, passports and so on and they will forward the info to US attorneys for criminal prosecution.
Orly
Orly
A letter from a reader Piecemaker, from Iowa
Glenn, I have been watching your new show on Fox and am delighted someone is finally stepping up to the bar and reporting on some real issues that the main stream media has been avoiding. I stopped watching all main stream media shows about four months ago because they were so biased that it was embarrassing. You are a breath of fresh air. Having said that, I have a challenge for you. Start to probe into the real facts surrounding Barack Obama's eligibility to hold the office of President. The 'real' facts may surprise you and will definitely draw some more listeners. There are many law suits in progress regarding Mr. Obama's eligibility, many of which are on the US Supreme Court dockets . Following is a copy of a letter that one of the attorneys has issued to one of the smaller radio stations. I think this letter will prove to pique your curiosity and hopefully, coverage of the event. Please let me know what you decide to do with this information. Thank you, Piecemaker from Council Bluffs, Iowa
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805-987-0400
Salem Communications
4880 Santa Rosa Road
Camarillo, Ca 93012
Joe Davis, President of Radio Division joeD@salem.cc
Chris Henderson, Vice President and General Counsel chrisH@salem.cc
Dear Mr. Davis and Mr. Henderson,
On Monday, January 19th, during Michael Medved's Radio Show, Mr. Medved made some very disparaging and slanderous remarks concerning my character, mental state and my motives for pursuing legal actions that question Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as President of the United States. Mr. Medved also made "false" statements concerning the merits of the legal actions that I have filed and insinuated that my primary motive for pursuing these matters is to receive monetary donations from an unsuspecting and misinformed public.
I find that Mr. Medved's willful ignorance on the issues surrounding Mr. Obama's "Natural Born Citizenship" status, and his unwillingness to familiarize himself with the merits of the numerous lawsuits that have been filed by concerned citizens, not conspiracy theorists, across this great County, is a great disservice to your listeners and the American public as a whole.
Under California law, statements, like the ones that Mr. Medved spewed on your radio broadcasts are considered defamatory. In a court of law, I would not need to show special damages (e.g., damages to property, business, trade, profession or occupation, including expenditures that resulted from your defamation statements) because the statements are defamation per se. See Cal. Civ. Code § 45a; Yow v. National Enquirer, Inc. 550 F.Supp.2d 1179, 1183 (E.D. Cal. 2008).
To remedy these slanderous and defamatory statements, California has a retraction statute, Cal. Civ. Code § 48a, that applies to the "publication of libel in a newspaper" or " slander by radio broadcast."
Under the California retraction statute, I have a right to serve you with a written request for retraction against the slanderous and defamatory statements that Mr. Medved has made about me, my character, statements he has made about my mental health and my motives for pursuing legal actions on behalf of my clients concerning Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as POTUS. Additionally, I have the right to request that Mr. Medved and your company and your affiliate stations that broadcast Mr. Medved's Show issue a retraction based on the misleading and misinformed derogatory comments that Mr. Medved made concerning the merits of the legal cases that I have filed involving matters relating to the Nov 4, 2008 Presidential election.
Therefore, I am demanding that you instruct Mr. Medved to invite me onto his radio show and allow me to defend myself against the slanderous and defamatory statements that he has made about me to your listeners. I am hopeful that this request will allow me to discuss these false statements and correct the misinformation that Mr. Medved has made public to your radio station listeners. I am requesting ample opportunity to discuss the legal merits of the cases I am litigating on the airwaves so your listeners can be fully informed on the issues concerning Mr. Obama's lack of eligibility to serve as POTUS.
If you do not allow me ample opportunity on Mr. Medved's show or equal time on your radio stations to personally present facts that directly contradict Mr. Medved's slanderous and defamatory statements, I demand that you issue an immediate oral retraction on your radio stations, and that this retraction include a fair and accurate historical outline of my background, my character, my mental health status and my motives for filing legal actions on behalf of my clients. I also request that this oral retraction present a fair and unbiased presentation of the legal merits of my case, and the merits of similar lawsuits that Mr. Medved lumped together with mine.
In addition, I demand that Mr. Medved and your affiliate stations issue a written retraction to be placed on Mr. Medved's personal/business web site, on the TownHall.com web site, on ALL your affiliate stations web sites in which you broadcast Mr. Medved's show, and to make certain that these written retractions specifically address the issues that I outlined above.
I ask that each retraction be placed in a prominent position on your corporate web site and all of your affiliate station web sites and that "RETRACTION-Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq." be placed in the heading of the section where the retraction appears. I also request that you publish this letter along with Mr. Medved's and your company's written retraction.
Please respond to this written retraction request by email, no later than February 3, 2009 and send a hard copy of your response and written retraction to me at my Mission Viejo address via Certified Mail/Signature Required no later than February 10, 2009.
Sincerely,
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.
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805-987-0400
Salem Communications
4880 Santa Rosa Road
Camarillo, Ca 93012
Joe Davis, President of Radio Division joeD@salem.cc
Chris Henderson, Vice President and General Counsel chrisH@salem.cc
Dear Mr. Davis and Mr. Henderson,
On Monday, January 19th, during Michael Medved's Radio Show, Mr. Medved made some very disparaging and slanderous remarks concerning my character, mental state and my motives for pursuing legal actions that question Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as President of the United States. Mr. Medved also made "false" statements concerning the merits of the legal actions that I have filed and insinuated that my primary motive for pursuing these matters is to receive monetary donations from an unsuspecting and misinformed public.
I find that Mr. Medved's willful ignorance on the issues surrounding Mr. Obama's "Natural Born Citizenship" status, and his unwillingness to familiarize himself with the merits of the numerous lawsuits that have been filed by concerned citizens, not conspiracy theorists, across this great County, is a great disservice to your listeners and the American public as a whole.
Under California law, statements, like the ones that Mr. Medved spewed on your radio broadcasts are considered defamatory. In a court of law, I would not need to show special damages (e.g., damages to property, business, trade, profession or occupation, including expenditures that resulted from your defamation statements) because the statements are defamation per se. See Cal. Civ. Code § 45a; Yow v. National Enquirer, Inc. 550 F.Supp.2d 1179, 1183 (E.D. Cal. 2008).
To remedy these slanderous and defamatory statements, California has a retraction statute, Cal. Civ. Code § 48a, that applies to the "publication of libel in a newspaper" or " slander by radio broadcast."
Under the California retraction statute, I have a right to serve you with a written request for retraction against the slanderous and defamatory statements that Mr. Medved has made about me, my character, statements he has made about my mental health and my motives for pursuing legal actions on behalf of my clients concerning Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as POTUS. Additionally, I have the right to request that Mr. Medved and your company and your affiliate stations that broadcast Mr. Medved's Show issue a retraction based on the misleading and misinformed derogatory comments that Mr. Medved made concerning the merits of the legal cases that I have filed involving matters relating to the Nov 4, 2008 Presidential election.
Therefore, I am demanding that you instruct Mr. Medved to invite me onto his radio show and allow me to defend myself against the slanderous and defamatory statements that he has made about me to your listeners. I am hopeful that this request will allow me to discuss these false statements and correct the misinformation that Mr. Medved has made public to your radio station listeners. I am requesting ample opportunity to discuss the legal merits of the cases I am litigating on the airwaves so your listeners can be fully informed on the issues concerning Mr. Obama's lack of eligibility to serve as POTUS.
If you do not allow me ample opportunity on Mr. Medved's show or equal time on your radio stations to personally present facts that directly contradict Mr. Medved's slanderous and defamatory statements, I demand that you issue an immediate oral retraction on your radio stations, and that this retraction include a fair and accurate historical outline of my background, my character, my mental health status and my motives for filing legal actions on behalf of my clients. I also request that this oral retraction present a fair and unbiased presentation of the legal merits of my case, and the merits of similar lawsuits that Mr. Medved lumped together with mine.
In addition, I demand that Mr. Medved and your affiliate stations issue a written retraction to be placed on Mr. Medved's personal/business web site, on the TownHall.com web site, on ALL your affiliate stations web sites in which you broadcast Mr. Medved's show, and to make certain that these written retractions specifically address the issues that I outlined above.
I ask that each retraction be placed in a prominent position on your corporate web site and all of your affiliate station web sites and that "RETRACTION-Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq." be placed in the heading of the section where the retraction appears. I also request that you publish this letter along with Mr. Medved's and your company's written retraction.
Please respond to this written retraction request by email, no later than February 3, 2009 and send a hard copy of your response and written retraction to me at my Mission Viejo address via Certified Mail/Signature Required no later than February 10, 2009.
Sincerely,
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.
From reader Rkania
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Sent: Friday, =anuary 23, 2009 6:31:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: INAUGURATION
The tally is in!
2 million =eople attended the Inauguration of our new president. Only 14 missed work !
To: Undisclosed-recipients:;
Sent: Friday, =anuary 23, 2009 6:31:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: INAUGURATION
The tally is in!
2 million =eople attended the Inauguration of our new president. Only 14 missed work !
From Michael Savage: OBAMA AND THE MEDIA
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS STARTING TO GET A LITTLE SNAPPY. HE GOT MAD AT THE PRESS CORPS LAST NIGHT WHEN HE PAID THEM A LITTLE VISIT AND THEY STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS, REAL QUESTIONS. CLEARLY THIS SOMETHING HE IS NOT USED TO. CLEARLY HE’S USED TO GETTING TOTAL CARTE BLANCHE FROM THE LIBERAL MEDIA. AND WHEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF A REPORTER DOING THEIR ACTUAL JOB COMES UP, HE TENDS TO ATTACK THE REPORTER.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED. WHEN HE WAS MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT HIS TRANSITION TO THE PRESIDENCY, ONE REPORTER TRIED TO ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. OBAMA IMMEDIATELY SHUT HIM DOWN, CHASTISING HIM FOR TRYING TO GET TO THE TRUTH. CLEARLY BARACK OBAMA IS NOT INTERESTED IN A FREE PRESS. HES INTERESTED IN A LACKEY PRESS. HE’S INTERESTED IN A FAWNING MEDIA THAT REFUSES TO DO ITS JOB. HE WANTS THEM TO CONTINUE TO PORTRAY HIM AS THE NEW MESSIAH. HE’S GOING TO FIND OUT THAT EVEN IN THE MOST FAWNING LIBERAL MEDIA STATE, REPORTER WILL EVENTUALLY BEGIN TO ASK SERIOUS QUESTIONS. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS HE WILL NOT REACT WELL.
IT APPEARS THAT HE WOULD LIKE A SOVIET STYLE LOCK STEP MEDIA IN THE SAME WAY HE WOULD LIKE A SOVIET STYLE LOCK STEP SOCIALIST STATE. BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS THE MESSAGE. HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESS REVEALS HIS VISION FOR THE COUNTRY. WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS PENTAGON NOMINEE, WILLIAM J LYNN THE THIRD, A HACK LOBBYIST, OBAMA PUT HIS HANDS ON THE REPORTER’S SHOULDER, STARED HIM IN THE EYE, AND RESPONDED WITH OBVIOUS IRRITATION IN HIS VOICE. AND IT SEEMS AS IF OBAMA IS PUTTING HIS HANDS ON OUR SHOULDER AND STARING US IN THE EYE, AND SAYING YOU ARE NO LONGER LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY. THE STATE WILL CONTROL THE INFORMATION YOU RECEIVE, THE STATE WILL CONTROL YOUR LIFE.
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OUTLAWING ANGER
IT SEEMS THAT IN THE ERA OF OBAMA, UNDER THE DICTATORSHIP OF OBAMA’S NEW SPIEL, THAT ANGER HAS BEEN OUTLAWED AS A FORM OF EXPRESSION. MAYBE IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIS OWN DEMEANOR. IN THE LIBERAL MEDIA HE IS ALWAYS DESCRIBED AS BEING COOL, AND CALM. MAYBE HE’S TRYING TO ENFORCE THIS ON THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. AND MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE BECOMES SO OFFENDED WHEN A REPORTER GETS ANGRY ENOUGH TO ASK A QUESTION.
AND MAYBE THAT’S ALSO WHY A WOMAN NAMED TAMERA JO FREEMAN WAS THROWN INTO JAIL, AND HAD HER CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY FROM HER FOR DISPLAYING ANGER ON AN AIRPLANE, WHEN SHE DISCIPLINED HER CHILDREN AND REFUSED TO ACT LIKE A SHEEP IN FRONT OF A FLIGHT ATTENDANT. THIS WOMAN SPENT THREE MONTHS IN JAIL, WAS CONVICTED OF A FELONY, AND HAD HER CHILDREN PUT INTO FOSTER CARE. THE GOVERNMENT TOOK HER CHILDREN AWAY FOR DISPLAYING ANGER.
WE KNOW THAT FOR DECADES THE INSANE LIBERAL ADHERENCE OF DR SPOCK HAD SAID THAT SPANKING YOUR CHILDREN IS A CRIME. AND THE PSYCHIATRIC PHARMACEUTICAL ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN TRYING TO ROOT OUT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR FOR YEARS. ANYTHING RESEMBLING TRADITIONAL MASCULINE BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN IN ESSENCE, OUTLAWED. AND SO WE HAVE AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF METROSEXUALS WHO REFUSE TO FIGHT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVEN IF THEIR LIVES ARE THREATENED. IT IS A GENERATION RIPE FOR A LEADER SUCH AS BARACK OBAMA, WHO’S COOL CALCULATING DEMEANOR DISCOURAGES DISSENT AND OUTRAGE.
BUT IN AN ERA WHERE LIBERALS CONTROL THE CONGRESS, A SOCIALIST CONTROLS THE PRESIDENCY, AND DEMONIC MARXISTS LIKE ROBERT REICH WANT TO CRUSH WHITE MALE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH OF OUR NATION. THEN OUTRAGE IS ALL WE HAVE LEFT. ANGER IS OUR LAST BEST DEFENSE. RAGE IS THE BEST WEAPON WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL, AND WE MUST NEVER GIVE IT UP. WHETHER ITS ON THE AIRWAVES, IN A CHECKOUT LINE, OR IN THE HALLS OF CONGRESS, ANGER MUST NEVER BE ABANDONED. RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION CREATED THIS COUNTRY, AND IT WILL HELP US SURVIVE THE ERA OF OBAMA.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED. WHEN HE WAS MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT HIS TRANSITION TO THE PRESIDENCY, ONE REPORTER TRIED TO ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. OBAMA IMMEDIATELY SHUT HIM DOWN, CHASTISING HIM FOR TRYING TO GET TO THE TRUTH. CLEARLY BARACK OBAMA IS NOT INTERESTED IN A FREE PRESS. HES INTERESTED IN A LACKEY PRESS. HE’S INTERESTED IN A FAWNING MEDIA THAT REFUSES TO DO ITS JOB. HE WANTS THEM TO CONTINUE TO PORTRAY HIM AS THE NEW MESSIAH. HE’S GOING TO FIND OUT THAT EVEN IN THE MOST FAWNING LIBERAL MEDIA STATE, REPORTER WILL EVENTUALLY BEGIN TO ASK SERIOUS QUESTIONS. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS HE WILL NOT REACT WELL.
IT APPEARS THAT HE WOULD LIKE A SOVIET STYLE LOCK STEP MEDIA IN THE SAME WAY HE WOULD LIKE A SOVIET STYLE LOCK STEP SOCIALIST STATE. BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS THE MESSAGE. HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESS REVEALS HIS VISION FOR THE COUNTRY. WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS PENTAGON NOMINEE, WILLIAM J LYNN THE THIRD, A HACK LOBBYIST, OBAMA PUT HIS HANDS ON THE REPORTER’S SHOULDER, STARED HIM IN THE EYE, AND RESPONDED WITH OBVIOUS IRRITATION IN HIS VOICE. AND IT SEEMS AS IF OBAMA IS PUTTING HIS HANDS ON OUR SHOULDER AND STARING US IN THE EYE, AND SAYING YOU ARE NO LONGER LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY. THE STATE WILL CONTROL THE INFORMATION YOU RECEIVE, THE STATE WILL CONTROL YOUR LIFE.
******************
OUTLAWING ANGER
IT SEEMS THAT IN THE ERA OF OBAMA, UNDER THE DICTATORSHIP OF OBAMA’S NEW SPIEL, THAT ANGER HAS BEEN OUTLAWED AS A FORM OF EXPRESSION. MAYBE IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIS OWN DEMEANOR. IN THE LIBERAL MEDIA HE IS ALWAYS DESCRIBED AS BEING COOL, AND CALM. MAYBE HE’S TRYING TO ENFORCE THIS ON THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. AND MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE BECOMES SO OFFENDED WHEN A REPORTER GETS ANGRY ENOUGH TO ASK A QUESTION.
AND MAYBE THAT’S ALSO WHY A WOMAN NAMED TAMERA JO FREEMAN WAS THROWN INTO JAIL, AND HAD HER CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY FROM HER FOR DISPLAYING ANGER ON AN AIRPLANE, WHEN SHE DISCIPLINED HER CHILDREN AND REFUSED TO ACT LIKE A SHEEP IN FRONT OF A FLIGHT ATTENDANT. THIS WOMAN SPENT THREE MONTHS IN JAIL, WAS CONVICTED OF A FELONY, AND HAD HER CHILDREN PUT INTO FOSTER CARE. THE GOVERNMENT TOOK HER CHILDREN AWAY FOR DISPLAYING ANGER.
WE KNOW THAT FOR DECADES THE INSANE LIBERAL ADHERENCE OF DR SPOCK HAD SAID THAT SPANKING YOUR CHILDREN IS A CRIME. AND THE PSYCHIATRIC PHARMACEUTICAL ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN TRYING TO ROOT OUT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR FOR YEARS. ANYTHING RESEMBLING TRADITIONAL MASCULINE BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN IN ESSENCE, OUTLAWED. AND SO WE HAVE AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF METROSEXUALS WHO REFUSE TO FIGHT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVEN IF THEIR LIVES ARE THREATENED. IT IS A GENERATION RIPE FOR A LEADER SUCH AS BARACK OBAMA, WHO’S COOL CALCULATING DEMEANOR DISCOURAGES DISSENT AND OUTRAGE.
BUT IN AN ERA WHERE LIBERALS CONTROL THE CONGRESS, A SOCIALIST CONTROLS THE PRESIDENCY, AND DEMONIC MARXISTS LIKE ROBERT REICH WANT TO CRUSH WHITE MALE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH OF OUR NATION. THEN OUTRAGE IS ALL WE HAVE LEFT. ANGER IS OUR LAST BEST DEFENSE. RAGE IS THE BEST WEAPON WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL, AND WE MUST NEVER GIVE IT UP. WHETHER ITS ON THE AIRWAVES, IN A CHECKOUT LINE, OR IN THE HALLS OF CONGRESS, ANGER MUST NEVER BE ABANDONED. RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION CREATED THIS COUNTRY, AND IT WILL HELP US SURVIVE THE ERA OF OBAMA.
Thank you for your service Lt Col David A. Earl-Graef!
To All American Citizens Who Love our Country,
As I have already written to you, by virtue of my oath as a USAFR officer, my public voice regarding the issues facing our Country and her survival is for the moment silenced. I must act in good faith and put my trust in the hands of the Supreme Court and will do so until I am given just cause to reconsider. I have asked you to take up the voice of freedom.
What I CAN say is that Orly is the “real deal”. Her dedication and valor in fighting that the truth be known and Justice prevail, in my life as a Military Officer, is one of the most courageous acts I have ever seen. I have personally had the honor of speaking directly with her several times and I know she loves America. I also know that she is reluctant to appeal to you to help her financially but has taken much of this burden upon herself.
It is with this in mind that I URGENTLY plea to you on her behalf. Help her by your actions and also donate to the cause. She needs and deserves our help in this area too. It is very easy to do. I am certain that every little bit you give will be appreciated and used to help her to continue to Defend our Freedoms. Please donate!
V/R
LtCol David A. Earl-Graef USAFR MC
As I have already written to you, by virtue of my oath as a USAFR officer, my public voice regarding the issues facing our Country and her survival is for the moment silenced. I must act in good faith and put my trust in the hands of the Supreme Court and will do so until I am given just cause to reconsider. I have asked you to take up the voice of freedom.
What I CAN say is that Orly is the “real deal”. Her dedication and valor in fighting that the truth be known and Justice prevail, in my life as a Military Officer, is one of the most courageous acts I have ever seen. I have personally had the honor of speaking directly with her several times and I know she loves America. I also know that she is reluctant to appeal to you to help her financially but has taken much of this burden upon herself.
It is with this in mind that I URGENTLY plea to you on her behalf. Help her by your actions and also donate to the cause. She needs and deserves our help in this area too. It is very easy to do. I am certain that every little bit you give will be appreciated and used to help her to continue to Defend our Freedoms. Please donate!
V/R
LtCol David A. Earl-Graef USAFR MC
Rick Warren- a man of no faith
During the inauguration pastor Rick Warren announced that Obama is a son of an African-American immigrant. The whole point is that Obama Sr. was never an immigrant in this country, he was here on a student visa and never even had a green card. The definition of the Natural born citizen, is one born in the country to parents (both) that are citizens of the country. For this reason alone Obama was never legitimate for presidency. Additionally there is no corroborating evidence that Obama was really born in Hawaii and Obama has reportedly spent over 800,000 to keep sealed his original birth certificate that costs $12 to obtain. Would any honest man do that?
I personally drove to Rick Warren's Saddleback church in Lake Forest CA and related to a pastor on duty and 3 assistants that I have important information about Obama's illegitimacy for presidency and asked for a meeting with Rick Warren before the inauguration. I never heard from him back. How can one calling himself a man of faith promote this fraud called Obama. I need a network of volunteers to meet with pastors, ministers, rabbis, priests- real men of faith of any denomination to build our numbers in the community of believers all over this great nation, to end the travesty of justice called Obama. If you want to take charge in your area, in your state e-mail me at dr_taitz@yahoo.com
I personally drove to Rick Warren's Saddleback church in Lake Forest CA and related to a pastor on duty and 3 assistants that I have important information about Obama's illegitimacy for presidency and asked for a meeting with Rick Warren before the inauguration. I never heard from him back. How can one calling himself a man of faith promote this fraud called Obama. I need a network of volunteers to meet with pastors, ministers, rabbis, priests- real men of faith of any denomination to build our numbers in the community of believers all over this great nation, to end the travesty of justice called Obama. If you want to take charge in your area, in your state e-mail me at dr_taitz@yahoo.com
Letter to Medved written by Steve Marquis, electronic engineer from Seattle, family man with children and grandchildren, fighting to preserve sanity.
Defamation of Character
Sent to:
http://www.michaelmedved.com/askmike
I hear you trashed Dr Orly. Will you also defame me. I was the 1st to sue the secretary of state. Many other fine citizens have followed suit. I have never seen such amazing selfless dedication to the constitution and our fellow man. I can tell you a great deal as to what I have seen in this movement and Orly's participation. She has spent a tremendous amount of her own cash and has received only small donations in comparison. She has spent an enormous amount of time and energy to carry this torch of freedom. She has flown across the nation and to far flung places at midnight to help a fellow citizen. She is an astounding patriot; an immigrant who knows 1st hand a little something about tyranny. She, I and many others are fighting with every thing we have to try and preserve that constitution that you abused recently.
We have a valid case and thousands of us are working diligently to bring this Usurper to square with the law. The cases and essays therein are no rants and the folks behind this quest are not wackos. It seems the only defense against our facts is to argue - "no big names are backing you so you must be nuts" - What kind of journalism is that???
Show us why we are wrong. I would very much like to be wrong. I know that is true of Orly and every leader in this movement. I am beginning to think the talk show jockeys have lost their spine. If it's just ignorance Michael - allow for some education. Orly, Myself - I can give you other names if you desire of very well spoken individuals that can articulate the case against Obama.
Steve Marquis
425-698-7084
peoplespassions.org
Sent to:
http://www.michaelmedved.com/askmike
I hear you trashed Dr Orly. Will you also defame me. I was the 1st to sue the secretary of state. Many other fine citizens have followed suit. I have never seen such amazing selfless dedication to the constitution and our fellow man. I can tell you a great deal as to what I have seen in this movement and Orly's participation. She has spent a tremendous amount of her own cash and has received only small donations in comparison. She has spent an enormous amount of time and energy to carry this torch of freedom. She has flown across the nation and to far flung places at midnight to help a fellow citizen. She is an astounding patriot; an immigrant who knows 1st hand a little something about tyranny. She, I and many others are fighting with every thing we have to try and preserve that constitution that you abused recently.
We have a valid case and thousands of us are working diligently to bring this Usurper to square with the law. The cases and essays therein are no rants and the folks behind this quest are not wackos. It seems the only defense against our facts is to argue - "no big names are backing you so you must be nuts" - What kind of journalism is that???
Show us why we are wrong. I would very much like to be wrong. I know that is true of Orly and every leader in this movement. I am beginning to think the talk show jockeys have lost their spine. If it's just ignorance Michael - allow for some education. Orly, Myself - I can give you other names if you desire of very well spoken individuals that can articulate the case against Obama.
Steve Marquis
425-698-7084
peoplespassions.org
Decision of the Supreme Court on Lightfoot v Bowen will be provided on Monday, 10 am Pacific
No. 08A524
Title: Gail Lightfoot, et al., Applicants
v.
Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State
Docketed:
Lower Ct: Supreme Court of California
Case Nos.: (S168690)
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dec 12 2008 Application (08A524) for a stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 17 2008 Application (08A524) denied by Justice Kennedy.
Dec 29 2008 Application (08A524) refiled and submitted to The Chief Justice.
Jan 7 2009 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 23, 2009.
Jan 7 2009 Application (08A524) referred to the Court.
Jan 13 2009 Suggestion for recusal received from applicant.
Jan 22 2009 Supplemental brief of applicant Gail Lightfoot, et al. filed. (Distributed)
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~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioners:
Orly Taitz 26302 La Paz (949) 683-5411
Counsel of Record Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Party name: Gail Lightfoot, et al.
Title: Gail Lightfoot, et al., Applicants
v.
Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State
Docketed:
Lower Ct: Supreme Court of California
Case Nos.: (S168690)
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dec 12 2008 Application (08A524) for a stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 17 2008 Application (08A524) denied by Justice Kennedy.
Dec 29 2008 Application (08A524) refiled and submitted to The Chief Justice.
Jan 7 2009 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 23, 2009.
Jan 7 2009 Application (08A524) referred to the Court.
Jan 13 2009 Suggestion for recusal received from applicant.
Jan 22 2009 Supplemental brief of applicant Gail Lightfoot, et al. filed. (Distributed)
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~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioners:
Orly Taitz 26302 La Paz (949) 683-5411
Counsel of Record Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Party name: Gail Lightfoot, et al.
From reader George Lewis
Who might be able to convince a member of the UN or a foreign head of state to bring pressure on the US to investigate and publicly prove or disprove Obama's US citizenship?
After all, any treaty or agreement Obama enters into as President might later be vacated if he is found to be a usurper.
If the right person in the right country considered this situation a threat to their foreign policy plans...?
After all, any treaty or agreement Obama enters into as President might later be vacated if he is found to be a usurper.
If the right person in the right country considered this situation a threat to their foreign policy plans...?
Friday, January 23, 2009
From a reader-Kathy from WI
was looking around on the internet..noticed something interesting..two spellings of Obama. One is Barak Hussein Obama. The other is Barack H Obama...Barack Obama is the name on the franklin mint commerative coin..people should call franklin mint and DEMAND A CORRECTION OR A CLARIFICATION IN THIS MATTER! people that paid good money for those coins will be very pissed off if Barack is the wrong spelling and should be Barak..good way to HIT THE POCKET BOOKS OF ALL THESE VENDORS THAT ARE MAKING MONEY OFF THIS FRAUD...THIS IS A VALID
what happenned to the first 350 billion?
Before more money is being authorized for spending or being spent, all of our elected officials should get full accounting about 350 billion stimulus that was given to AIG, Goldman Sacks, JP Morgan, Citigroup and others. How did giving billions of taxpayer dollars to crooked bankers that brought the economy to a near collapse by their risky investments, helped the economy? Why was 123 billion dollars given to AIG? Why did it become Shaaria muslim law compliant? How did it benefit us, the tax payers? How much did they already repay us and when will we get all our money back? When Obama and Geitner will give us all the answers on these questions, we can consider any more packages. Meanwhile, until the answers are given, no elective official should even think of spending more money. That is throwing good money after the bad money and sending the economy into free fall.
Each and every decent American should contact his elected officials and demand to see accounting on the first package, repayment schedule, that would show, whe will we get our money back and "no" on any more packages until we get a schedule of repayment with interest.
Orly
Each and every decent American should contact his elected officials and demand to see accounting on the first package, repayment schedule, that would show, whe will we get our money back and "no" on any more packages until we get a schedule of repayment with interest.
Orly
Obama attacks Limbaugh
PREZ ZINGS GOP FOE IN A $TIMULATING TALK
Comments: 511Read Comments Leave a Comment By CHARLES HURT, BUREAU CHIEF
Last updated: 10:37 pm
January 23, 2009
Posted: 8:13 pm
January 23, 2009
WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.
"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.
One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.
"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done."
That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans today.
In an exchange with Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) about the proposal, the president shot back: "I won," according to aides briefed on the meeting.
"I will trump you on that."
Not that Obama was gloating. He was just explaining that he aims to get his way on stimulus package and all other legislation, sources said, noting his unrivaled one-party control of both congressional chambers.
"We are experiencing an unprecedented economic crisis that has to be dealt with and dealt with rapidly," Obama said during the meeting.
Republicans say the $825 billion price tag is too big a burden for a nation crippled by debt and that it doesn't do enough to stimulate the economy by cutting taxes.
"You know, I'm concerned about the size of the package. And I'm concerned about some of the spending that's in there, [about] ... how you can spend hundreds of millions on contraceptives," House GOP Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) later said.
"How does that stimulate the economy?"
But White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs countered: "There was a lot of agreement in that room about the notion that we're facing an economic crisis unlike we've seen in quite some time ... that we must act quickly to stimulate the economy, create jobs, put money back in people's pockets."
Gibbs disagreed with those who called the meeting window dressing.
"The president is certainly going to listen to any ideas," he said.
"He will also go to Capitol Hill the beginning of next week to talk to Republican caucuses and solicit their input and their ideas."
With Post Wires
churt@nypost.com
Comments: 511Read Comments Leave a Comment By CHARLES HURT, BUREAU CHIEF
Last updated: 10:37 pm
January 23, 2009
Posted: 8:13 pm
January 23, 2009
WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.
"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.
One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.
"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done."
That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans today.
In an exchange with Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) about the proposal, the president shot back: "I won," according to aides briefed on the meeting.
"I will trump you on that."
Not that Obama was gloating. He was just explaining that he aims to get his way on stimulus package and all other legislation, sources said, noting his unrivaled one-party control of both congressional chambers.
"We are experiencing an unprecedented economic crisis that has to be dealt with and dealt with rapidly," Obama said during the meeting.
Republicans say the $825 billion price tag is too big a burden for a nation crippled by debt and that it doesn't do enough to stimulate the economy by cutting taxes.
"You know, I'm concerned about the size of the package. And I'm concerned about some of the spending that's in there, [about] ... how you can spend hundreds of millions on contraceptives," House GOP Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) later said.
"How does that stimulate the economy?"
But White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs countered: "There was a lot of agreement in that room about the notion that we're facing an economic crisis unlike we've seen in quite some time ... that we must act quickly to stimulate the economy, create jobs, put money back in people's pockets."
Gibbs disagreed with those who called the meeting window dressing.
"The president is certainly going to listen to any ideas," he said.
"He will also go to Capitol Hill the beginning of next week to talk to Republican caucuses and solicit their input and their ideas."
With Post Wires
churt@nypost.com
ORLY'S RETRACTION REQUEST AGAINST MICHAEL MEDVED
JK shared the following:
Orly is kicking ass again. Publish both letters on your blogs.
I have the audio tape of the show, but I have to cut it down to the clip. I'll forward it to you all when I am done. Pass this around. Let's make it go viral. If Orly filed a CIVIL suit against Medved for slander, maybe the BC documents could finally be obtained. Maybe Obama could be deposed. We have to start thinking out of the box.
805-987-0400
Salem Communications
4880 Santa Rosa Road
Camarillo, Ca 93012
Joe Davis, President of Radio Division joeD@salem.cc
Chris Henderson, Vice President and General Counsel chrisH@salem.cc
Dear Mr. Davis and Mr. Henderson,
On Monday, January 19th, during Michael Medved's Radio Show, Mr. Medved made some very disparaging and slanderous remarks concerning my character, mental state and my motives for pursuing legal actions that question Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as President of the United States. Mr. Medved also made "false" statements concerning the merits of the legal actions that I have filed and insinuated that my primary motive for pursuing these matters is to receive monetary donations from an unsuspecting and misinformed public.
I find that Mr. Medved's willful ignorance on the issues surrounding Mr. Obama's "Natural Born Citizenship" status, and his unwillingness to familiarize himself with the merits of the numerous lawsuits that have been filed by concerned citizens, not conspiracy theorists, across this great County, is a great disservice to your listeners and the American public as a whole.
Under California law, statements, like the ones that Mr. Medved spewed on your radio broadcasts are considered defamatory. In a court of law, I would not need to show special damages (e.g., damages to property, business, trade, profession or occupation, including expenditures that resulted from your defamation statements) because the statements are defamation per se. See Cal. Civ. Code § 45a; Yow v. National Enquirer, Inc. 550 F.Supp.2d 1179, 1183 (E.D. Cal. 2008).
To remedy these slanderous and defamatory statements, California has a retraction statute, Cal. Civ. Code § 48a, that applies to the "publication of libel in a newspaper" or "slander by radio broadcast."
Under the California retraction statute, I have a right to serve you with a written request for retraction against the slanderous and defamatory statements that Mr. Medved has made about me, my character, statements he has made about my mental health and my motives for pursuing legal actions on behalf of my clients concerning Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as POTUS. Additionally, I have the right to request that Mr. Medved and your company and your affiliate stations that broadcast Mr. Medved's Show issue a retraction based on the misleading and misinformed derogatory comments that Mr. Medved made concerning the merits of the legal cases that I have filed involving matters relating to the Nov 4, 2008 Presidential election.
Therefore, I am demanding that you instruct Mr. Medved to invite me onto his radio show and allow me to defend myself against the slanderous and defamatory statements that he has made about me to your listeners. I am hopeful that this request will allow me to discuss these false statements and correct the misinformation that Mr. Medved has made public to your radio station listeners. I am requesting ample opportunity to discuss the legal merits of the cases I am litigating on the airwaves so your listeners can be fully informed on the issues concerning Mr. Obama's lack of eligibility to serve as POTUS.
If you do not allow me ample opportunity on Mr. Medved's show or equal time on your radio stations to personally present facts that directly contradict Mr. Medved's slanderous and defamatory statements, I demand that you issue an immediate oral retraction on your radio stations, and that this retraction include a fair and accurate historical outline of my background, my character, my mental health status and my motives for filing legal actions on behalf of my clients. I also request that this oral retraction present a fair and unbiased presentation of the legal merits of my case, and the merits of similar lawsuits that Mr. Medved lumped together with mine.
In addition, I demand that Mr. Medved and your affiliate stations issue a written retraction to be placed on Mr. Medved's personal/business web site, on the TownHall.com web site, on ALL your affiliate stations web sites in which you broadcast Mr. Medved's show, and to make certain that these written retractions specifically address the issues that I outlined above.
I ask that each retraction be placed in a prominent position on your corporate web site and all of your affiliate station web sites and that "RETRACTION-Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq." be placed in the heading of the section where the retraction appears. I also request that you publish this letter along with Mr. Medved's and your company's written retraction.
Please respond to this written retraction request by email, no later than February 3, 2009 and send a hard copy of your response and written retraction to me at my Mission Viejo address via Certified Mail/Signature Required no later than February 10, 2009.
Sincerely,
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.
26302 La Paz, Suite 211
Mission Viejo Ca 92691
29839 S. Margarita Pkwy
Rancho Santa Margarita Ca 92688
Office: 949-586-8110
Cell: 949-683-5411
Fax: 949-586-2082
Email: dr_taitz@yahoo.com
Copy of Letter sent to TownHall.com and Michael Medved
TownHall.Com
1901 N. Moore Street, Suite 701
Arlington, VA 22209
To: Michael Medved
RE: Michael Medved Show
Email: michael@michaelmedved.com
Online Email Form: http://www.michaelmedved.com/askmike
Date: January 23, 2009
Dear Mr. Medved,
On Monday, January 19th, during your Radio Show, you had made some very disparaging and slanderous remarks concerning my character, mental state and my motives for pursuing legal actions that question Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as President of the United States. You had also made "false" statements concerning the merits of the legal actions that I have filed and insinuated that my primary motive for pursuing these matters is to receive monetary donations from an unsuspecting and misinformed public.
I find that your willful ignorance on the issues surrounding Mr. Obama's "Natural Born Citizenship" status, and your unwillingness to familiarize yourself with the merits of the numerous lawsuits that have been filed by concerned citizens, not conspiracy theorists, across this great County, is a great disservice to your listeners and the American public as a whole.
Under California law, statements, like the one's you spewed on your radio broadcast are considered defamatory. In a court of law, I would not need to show special damages (e.g., damages to property, business, trade, profession or occupation, including expenditures that resulted from your defamation statements) because the statements are defamation per se. See Cal. Civ. Code § 45a; Yow v. National Enquirer, Inc. 550 F.Supp.2d 1179, 1183 (E.D. Cal. 2008).
To remedy these slanderous and defamatory statements, California has a retraction statute, Cal. Civ. Code § 48a, that applies to the "publication of libel in a newspaper" or "slander by radio broadcast."
Under the California retraction statute, I have a right to serve you with a written request for retraction against the slanderous and defamatory statements that you made about me, my character, statements you made about my mental health and my motives for pursuing legal actions on behalf of my clients concerning Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as POTUS. Additionally, I have the right to request that you issue a retraction based on the misleading and misinformed derogatory comments that you made concerning the merits of the legal cases that I have filed involving matters relating to the Nov 4, 2008 Presidential election.
Therefore, I am demanding that you invite me on your radio show and allow me to defend myself against the slanderous and defamatory statements that you made about me so we can further discuss these false statements and the misinformation you made public regarding the legal merits of the cases I am litigating. If you do not allow me ample opportunity on your show to personally present facts that directly contradict your slanderous and defamatory statements, I demand that you issue an immediate oral retraction on your radio show, which includes a fair and accurate historical outline of my background, my character, my mental health status and my motives for filing legal actions on behalf of my clients. I also request that this oral retraction present a fair and unbiased presentation of the legal merits of my case, and the merits of similar lawsuits that you lumped together with mine.
In addition, I demand that you issue a written retraction on your personal/business web site and on the TownHall.com web site, that specifically addresses the issues outlined above. I ask that this retraction is placed in a prominent position on the site and that "RETRACTION-Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq." be placed in the heading of the section where the retraction appears. I also request that you publish this letter along with your written retraction.
Please respond to this written retraction request by email, no later than February 3, 2009 and send a hard copy of your response and written retraction to me at my Mission Viejo address via Certified Mail/Signature Required no later than February 10, 2009.
Sincerely,
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.
26302 La Paz, Suite 211
Mission Viejo Ca 92691
29839 S. Margarita Pkwy
Rancho Santa Margarita Ca 92688
Office: 949-586-8110
Cell: 949-683-5411
Fax: 949-586-2082
Email: dr_taitz@yahoo.com
IBD Vague Rhetoric will suffice only so long
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?secid=1505&status=article&id=317518504174918&secure=1&show=1&rss=1 Vague Rhetoric Will Suffice Only So Long
By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON | Posted Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:20 PM PT
For nearly three months since the election, we have been warned by President Obama, his staff and the media not to burden him with unreal expectations that no mere mortal could meet.
But why then consciously borrow from Abraham Lincoln's speeches? And why re-create Lincoln's historic train ride to his inauguration — especially by flying back from Washington to Illinois to then return to D.C. by slow-moving railcar?
Lincoln took the train because it was the only feasible way to get to Washington in 1861, not to copy the grand arrival of some earlier American savior.
Candidate Obama once adopted a presidential-like seal. He held a mass rally at Berlin's Victory Column (after his request for the more dramatic Brandenburg Gate was refused).
He adopted Greek temple sets at the Democratic convention. And like Zeus on Mt. Olympus, he talked about making the planet cool and the oceans recede.
And now he's capped all that by warning us to lower our expectations! But if Obama deliberately takes on the trappings of a messiah, why shouldn't we expect messianic solutions?
The alterations in positions during Obama's pre-presidency were praised as "flexible" and "bipartisan." Perhaps. But Obama did not adjust on just an issue or two. Instead, he went whole hog.
It would be difficult to find a single major policy position that he hasn't backtracked somewhat on, especially on matters of foreign policy and the war against terror. Yet throughout the campaign, Obama and the media argued that the manner in which Bush waged the war against terror was harmful to the republic. So, were Bush's polices wrong then, but suddenly right now?
Successfully having it both ways has been evident again on matters of his appointments. Obama defeated Hillary Clinton by running as a Washington outsider who promised new hope and radical change — and anything other than more Bush or Clinton.
Then he imported much of the old Clinton team for governance — Rahm Emanuel, Leon Panetta, John Podesta, Larry Summers, Hillary herself and a score of others — to put a far more articulate and hip veneer on George Bush's current foreign policy. The Obama team has drafted more old-style former congressional insiders than any administration in memory.
What is going on here? Apparently, Obama accepts that the country is both still center-right and yet eager for a nontraditional national spokesman — glib, young, cool and able to charm a hostile world that is often hypocritical toward and envious of America.
In times of economic uncertainty and war, once Obama moved toward the center voters could see him as a transracial healer who offered vague change, made them feel good about themselves and, unlike John McCain, was the antithesis of the stodgy old white guy George Bush.
But Obama's hard-left base had promoted Obama the liberal activist for different reasons. They want much more of a state role in the economy, while making American society, at home and abroad, look a lot more European.
So to satisfy both left and center constituencies, Obama seems to stick with the status quo on major issues while offering symbolic gestures and low-profile appointments to radical environmentalists, gay and minority activists, open-borders reformers and labor unionists.
In return, progressives will stick with Obama for a while, on the assumption that he alone can carefully prep and hypnotize the country to soon accept a more left-wing agenda.
And when anyone seems to object to this off-putting balancing act, Obama returns to soaring rhetoric to soothe away the acrimony the way he once did with the Rev. Wright mess last spring.
This triangulation may or may not work at home. Yet abroad it is a different story, where one cannot vote present or charm tough guys and thugs who do not always appreciate flexibility — and may interpret it as weakness to be exploited.
The Iranians prefer to talk, talk, and talk — while they get the bomb. Vladimir Putin wants consensus and dialogue — about re-establishing a right-wing version of the Soviet Empire. China loans us trillions to buy its goods — with the idea that it will soon leverage our financial policy. Europe wants to be courted while expecting America to both lead and be criticized for leading. The Palestinians for now want Israel gone from the West Bank and Gaza — and, at a not-so-future date, gone, period.
The much-maligned George Bush handled all these characters with often unambiguous, if inelegant, talk, and a no-nonsense toughness. If Obama, in contrast, feels he can offer them vague hope-and-change great-expectations rhetoric, and make himself agreeable to the world abroad in the manner he did so to us at home — well, then, lots of luck!
© 2008 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.
By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON | Posted Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:20 PM PT
For nearly three months since the election, we have been warned by President Obama, his staff and the media not to burden him with unreal expectations that no mere mortal could meet.
But why then consciously borrow from Abraham Lincoln's speeches? And why re-create Lincoln's historic train ride to his inauguration — especially by flying back from Washington to Illinois to then return to D.C. by slow-moving railcar?
Lincoln took the train because it was the only feasible way to get to Washington in 1861, not to copy the grand arrival of some earlier American savior.
Candidate Obama once adopted a presidential-like seal. He held a mass rally at Berlin's Victory Column (after his request for the more dramatic Brandenburg Gate was refused).
He adopted Greek temple sets at the Democratic convention. And like Zeus on Mt. Olympus, he talked about making the planet cool and the oceans recede.
And now he's capped all that by warning us to lower our expectations! But if Obama deliberately takes on the trappings of a messiah, why shouldn't we expect messianic solutions?
The alterations in positions during Obama's pre-presidency were praised as "flexible" and "bipartisan." Perhaps. But Obama did not adjust on just an issue or two. Instead, he went whole hog.
It would be difficult to find a single major policy position that he hasn't backtracked somewhat on, especially on matters of foreign policy and the war against terror. Yet throughout the campaign, Obama and the media argued that the manner in which Bush waged the war against terror was harmful to the republic. So, were Bush's polices wrong then, but suddenly right now?
Successfully having it both ways has been evident again on matters of his appointments. Obama defeated Hillary Clinton by running as a Washington outsider who promised new hope and radical change — and anything other than more Bush or Clinton.
Then he imported much of the old Clinton team for governance — Rahm Emanuel, Leon Panetta, John Podesta, Larry Summers, Hillary herself and a score of others — to put a far more articulate and hip veneer on George Bush's current foreign policy. The Obama team has drafted more old-style former congressional insiders than any administration in memory.
What is going on here? Apparently, Obama accepts that the country is both still center-right and yet eager for a nontraditional national spokesman — glib, young, cool and able to charm a hostile world that is often hypocritical toward and envious of America.
In times of economic uncertainty and war, once Obama moved toward the center voters could see him as a transracial healer who offered vague change, made them feel good about themselves and, unlike John McCain, was the antithesis of the stodgy old white guy George Bush.
But Obama's hard-left base had promoted Obama the liberal activist for different reasons. They want much more of a state role in the economy, while making American society, at home and abroad, look a lot more European.
So to satisfy both left and center constituencies, Obama seems to stick with the status quo on major issues while offering symbolic gestures and low-profile appointments to radical environmentalists, gay and minority activists, open-borders reformers and labor unionists.
In return, progressives will stick with Obama for a while, on the assumption that he alone can carefully prep and hypnotize the country to soon accept a more left-wing agenda.
And when anyone seems to object to this off-putting balancing act, Obama returns to soaring rhetoric to soothe away the acrimony the way he once did with the Rev. Wright mess last spring.
This triangulation may or may not work at home. Yet abroad it is a different story, where one cannot vote present or charm tough guys and thugs who do not always appreciate flexibility — and may interpret it as weakness to be exploited.
The Iranians prefer to talk, talk, and talk — while they get the bomb. Vladimir Putin wants consensus and dialogue — about re-establishing a right-wing version of the Soviet Empire. China loans us trillions to buy its goods — with the idea that it will soon leverage our financial policy. Europe wants to be courted while expecting America to both lead and be criticized for leading. The Palestinians for now want Israel gone from the West Bank and Gaza — and, at a not-so-future date, gone, period.
The much-maligned George Bush handled all these characters with often unambiguous, if inelegant, talk, and a no-nonsense toughness. If Obama, in contrast, feels he can offer them vague hope-and-change great-expectations rhetoric, and make himself agreeable to the world abroad in the manner he did so to us at home — well, then, lots of luck!
© 2008 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.
Released Guantanamo detainee reemerged as an Al-Qaida commander in Yemen
Released detainee now Yemen al-Qaida commander
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Featured Topics: Barack Obama Presidential Transition Play Video ABC News – Does Gitmo Secure American Safety?
Play Video Video: Obama to close Guantanamo Bay camp AFP Play Video Video: 9/11 Families None Too Pleased With Gitmo Closing CBS 2 New York Play Video Barack Obama Video: Yo-Yo Ma at inauguration taped, not live AP AFP/Pool/File – Camp Delta detention compound at Guantanamo Bay US Naval Base, Cuba. The number of inmates on hunger … WASHINGTON – A released Guantanamo Bay terror detainee has reemerged as an al-Qaida commander in Yemen, highlighting the dilemma facing President Barack Obama in shaping plans to close the detention facility and decide the fates of U.S. captives.
A U.S. counterterror official confirmed Friday that Said Ali al-Shihri, who was jailed in Guantanamo for six years after his capture in Pakistan, has resurfaced as a leader of a Yemeni branch of al-Qaida.
"By Allah, imprisonment only increased our persistence in our principles for which we went out, did jihad for, and were imprisoned for," he said in a video posted on a militant-leaning Web site Friday. It was the second time this week a reference to al-Shihri has shown up on the Web site. He was mentioned in an online magazine on Jan. 19 with a reference to his prisoner number at Guantanamo, 372.
Al-Shihri was released by the U.S. in 2007 to the Saudi government for rehabilitation. But this week a publication posted on a militant-leaning Web site said he is now the top deputy in "al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula," a Yemeni offshoot of the terror group headed by Osama bin Laden. The group has been implicated in several attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Yemen's capital Sana.
The announcement from the militant site came the same day that President Barack Obama signed an executive order directing the closure of the jail at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within a year.
A key question facing Obama's new administration is what to do with the 245 prisoners still confined at Guantanamo. That means finding new detention facilities for hard-core prisoners while trying to determine which detainees are harmless enough to release.
According to the Pentagon at least 18 former Guantanamo detainees have "returned to the fight" and another 43 are suspected of resuming terrorist activities. Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell declined to provide the identity of the former detainees or what their terrorist activities were.
It is unclear whether al-Shihri's name would be a new addition to that list of 61.
Al-Shihri is one of a small number of deputies in the Yemeni group, the U.S. counterterror official said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss sensitive intelligence.
The militant Web site referred to al-Shihri under his terror nom de guerre, "Abu Sayyaf al-Shihri." The video refers to him as "Abu Sufyan al-Azdi al-Shahri."
An online magazine posted to the The Internet site said al-Shihri is the group's second-in-command in Yemen. "He managed to leave the land of the two shrines (Saudi Arabia) and join his brothers in al-Qaida," the statement said.
Included in the site's material was a message to Yemen's populace from al-Qaida figure Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's top deputy. SITE Intel Group, which monitors extremist Web sites, provided a partial translation of the magazine article and the video.
According to Pentagon documents, al-Shihri was stopped at a Pakistani border crossing in December 2001 with injuries from an airstrike and recuperated at a hospital in Quetta for a month and a half. Within days of leaving the hospital, he became one of the first detainees sent to Guantanamo.
Al-Shihri allegedly traveled to Afghanistan two weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, provided money to other fighters and trained in urban warfare at a camp north of Kabul, according to a summary of the evidence against him from U.S. military review panels at Guantanamo Bay.
An alleged travel coordinator for al-Qaida, he was also accused of meeting extremists in Mashad, Iran, and briefing them on how to enter Afghanistan, according to the Defense Department documents.
Al-Shihri, however, said he traveled to Iran to buy carpets for his store in Riyadh. He said he felt bin Laden had no business representing Islam, denied any links to terrorism, and expressed interest in rejoining his family in Saudi Arabia.
Yemen is rapidly reemerging as a terrorist battleground and potential base of operations for al-Qaida and is a main concern for U.S. counterterrorism officials. Al-Qaida in Yemen conducted an "unprecedented number of attacks" in 2008 and is likely to be a launching pad for attacks against Saudi Arabia, outgoing CIA Director Michael Hayden said in November.
The most recent attack, in September, killed 16 people. It followed a March mortar attack, and two attacks against Yemen's presidential compound in late April.
The impoverished country on the southern tip of the Arabian peninsula has a weak central government and a powerful tribal system. That leaves large lawless areas open for terrorist training and operations.
Yemen was also the site of the 2000 USS Cole bombing that killed 17 American sailors. Seventeen suspects in the attack were arrested; ten of them escaped Yemen's jails in 2003. One of the primary suspects in the attack, Jamal al-Badawi, escaped jail in 2004. He was taken back into custody last fall under pressure from the U.S. government.
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Associated Press writer Maggie Michael contributed to this report from Cairo.
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Featured Topics: Barack Obama Presidential Transition Play Video ABC News – Does Gitmo Secure American Safety?
Play Video Video: Obama to close Guantanamo Bay camp AFP Play Video Video: 9/11 Families None Too Pleased With Gitmo Closing CBS 2 New York Play Video Barack Obama Video: Yo-Yo Ma at inauguration taped, not live AP AFP/Pool/File – Camp Delta detention compound at Guantanamo Bay US Naval Base, Cuba. The number of inmates on hunger … WASHINGTON – A released Guantanamo Bay terror detainee has reemerged as an al-Qaida commander in Yemen, highlighting the dilemma facing President Barack Obama in shaping plans to close the detention facility and decide the fates of U.S. captives.
A U.S. counterterror official confirmed Friday that Said Ali al-Shihri, who was jailed in Guantanamo for six years after his capture in Pakistan, has resurfaced as a leader of a Yemeni branch of al-Qaida.
"By Allah, imprisonment only increased our persistence in our principles for which we went out, did jihad for, and were imprisoned for," he said in a video posted on a militant-leaning Web site Friday. It was the second time this week a reference to al-Shihri has shown up on the Web site. He was mentioned in an online magazine on Jan. 19 with a reference to his prisoner number at Guantanamo, 372.
Al-Shihri was released by the U.S. in 2007 to the Saudi government for rehabilitation. But this week a publication posted on a militant-leaning Web site said he is now the top deputy in "al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula," a Yemeni offshoot of the terror group headed by Osama bin Laden. The group has been implicated in several attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Yemen's capital Sana.
The announcement from the militant site came the same day that President Barack Obama signed an executive order directing the closure of the jail at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within a year.
A key question facing Obama's new administration is what to do with the 245 prisoners still confined at Guantanamo. That means finding new detention facilities for hard-core prisoners while trying to determine which detainees are harmless enough to release.
According to the Pentagon at least 18 former Guantanamo detainees have "returned to the fight" and another 43 are suspected of resuming terrorist activities. Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell declined to provide the identity of the former detainees or what their terrorist activities were.
It is unclear whether al-Shihri's name would be a new addition to that list of 61.
Al-Shihri is one of a small number of deputies in the Yemeni group, the U.S. counterterror official said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss sensitive intelligence.
The militant Web site referred to al-Shihri under his terror nom de guerre, "Abu Sayyaf al-Shihri." The video refers to him as "Abu Sufyan al-Azdi al-Shahri."
An online magazine posted to the The Internet site said al-Shihri is the group's second-in-command in Yemen. "He managed to leave the land of the two shrines (Saudi Arabia) and join his brothers in al-Qaida," the statement said.
Included in the site's material was a message to Yemen's populace from al-Qaida figure Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's top deputy. SITE Intel Group, which monitors extremist Web sites, provided a partial translation of the magazine article and the video.
According to Pentagon documents, al-Shihri was stopped at a Pakistani border crossing in December 2001 with injuries from an airstrike and recuperated at a hospital in Quetta for a month and a half. Within days of leaving the hospital, he became one of the first detainees sent to Guantanamo.
Al-Shihri allegedly traveled to Afghanistan two weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, provided money to other fighters and trained in urban warfare at a camp north of Kabul, according to a summary of the evidence against him from U.S. military review panels at Guantanamo Bay.
An alleged travel coordinator for al-Qaida, he was also accused of meeting extremists in Mashad, Iran, and briefing them on how to enter Afghanistan, according to the Defense Department documents.
Al-Shihri, however, said he traveled to Iran to buy carpets for his store in Riyadh. He said he felt bin Laden had no business representing Islam, denied any links to terrorism, and expressed interest in rejoining his family in Saudi Arabia.
Yemen is rapidly reemerging as a terrorist battleground and potential base of operations for al-Qaida and is a main concern for U.S. counterterrorism officials. Al-Qaida in Yemen conducted an "unprecedented number of attacks" in 2008 and is likely to be a launching pad for attacks against Saudi Arabia, outgoing CIA Director Michael Hayden said in November.
The most recent attack, in September, killed 16 people. It followed a March mortar attack, and two attacks against Yemen's presidential compound in late April.
The impoverished country on the southern tip of the Arabian peninsula has a weak central government and a powerful tribal system. That leaves large lawless areas open for terrorist training and operations.
Yemen was also the site of the 2000 USS Cole bombing that killed 17 American sailors. Seventeen suspects in the attack were arrested; ten of them escaped Yemen's jails in 2003. One of the primary suspects in the attack, Jamal al-Badawi, escaped jail in 2004. He was taken back into custody last fall under pressure from the U.S. government.
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Associated Press writer Maggie Michael contributed to this report from Cairo.
Obama documentation activists - - not conspiracy theorists
Michael is a writer for renewamerica.us
January 22, 2009
Obama documentation activists - - not conspiracy theorists
By Michael Bresciani
A theorist is someone who holds and expounds a theory. Often the elements of the theory are expostulated on things that may never be known. Was there another shooter on the grassy knowle, where is Osama Bin Laden? Those trying to vet Obama even post inaugural are not trying to prove a theory, here is why.
Most of those filing law suits to subpoena Obama's documents are lawyers, politicians and military people none who have ever been known to be conspiracy theorists on any subject. The attempt to put them in the same class with those who chase UFO sightings or those who are still looking for the Holy Grail is demeaning and ridiculous.
Questions about the body of Hitler, the whereabouts of Osama and how many shooters were on the grassy knowle and other conspiracy questions all have one thing in common; they are speculative and nearly un-answerable. Bringing a birth certificate or school records up out of a vault does not require a bit of speculation. All that's needed is a subpoena not a theory. Producing a document is in no way comparable to proving a theory.
The birth certificate in question is only one document that is conspicuously missing from Barack Obama's past. The list of documents is huge and it is one of the reasons all of them have been sought by various lawyers and interested parties.
Article II of the Constitution says "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
Those refusing to produce the requested documents are turning up their noses to the Constitution, to "we the people" and calling them "conspiracy theorists" will by no means make the question go away.
The premise of all the pending lawsuits is uniform and consistent even if they are poorly understood. The most common mistake is to see it as a few discontented people who don't like Barack Obama or who just can't handle the results of the election. It is true that this small but rapidly growing body of questioners think they have been victims of a fraud but the truth is that if what they are trying to show us has even an ounce of truth to it then 305,000,000 Americans have been subject to the fraud.
Neither the inauguration nor the crowds chanting "Obama" on the concourse will deter those who are determined to know the truth. After all even Jesus had people throwing palm branches in front of him one day and crowds crying out for his crucifixion the next. Many of those who called for Christ's death were no doubt the same ones who only the day before hailed him as their King. While Barack Obama may have the next four to eight years to sit in the oval office he may have no more than Andy Warhol's fifteen minutes of fame like everyone else on this planet.
It is the more obvious contradictions to the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution that has most of us worried about Obama's plans for America. His willingness to sign FOCA (freedom of choice act) into law would allow an abortion at any time during a pregnancy. That would nullify the "right to life" part of the Declaration and would render the "liberty and the pursuit of happiness" aspect of the Declaration a total impossibility. Isn't it a contradiction to say "all men are created equal" without including the unborn?
The Reverend Joseph Lowery elicited smiles and amen's at the Obama inauguration as he finished his prayer with the words "we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, and when white will embrace what is right." Why did he not add "when the unborn will be allowed to live on?"
Obama's willingness to re-insert hate crime legislation into the congress for approval ignores the provisions of the fourteenth amendment and creates a conflict between the first amendment and the proposed provisions of the hate crimes bill.
It takes no genius to see that if the Congress can make no law regarding the establishment of religion then to enact hate crime legislation that prohibits someone from declaring the tenants of their religion as it pertains to the practice of homosexual behavior is to defy the first amendment of the Bill of Rights and do great damage to the first amendment of the Constitution.
This nation has produced some of the most amazing personalities the world has ever known but we must not forget that it is not a nation of personalities but a nation of laws. It is those laws that create the field in which great personalities can be fostered.
A refusal to remember that laws are our very foundation can result in something other nations have already learned. Disregarding founding principles is possible and only how long it takes to recover from such a path is what remains to be answered.
It took Germany sixty years to go from crowds of people chanting "Heil Hitler" to a recovery and re-establishment into the world community. It took three decades for China to recover from crowds of youth smashing every semblance of their long and historic past under the sway of Mao. It has taken the bully Soviet Union around six decades to realize that every individual has rights and the "state" is not greater than the sum of its parts.
How long will it take America to realize that its Constitution is the immovable rock of our free republic? The answer to this is up to us. It may take years but it does not have to, it may take only as long as it takes to comply with the law and answer only one or two well placed subpoenas.
God help us to get on with it.
© Michael Bresciani
The subpoenas from us, document activists, can be reviewed here:
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/raft-of-subpoenas.html
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/re-raft-of-subpoenas.html
January 22, 2009
Obama documentation activists - - not conspiracy theorists
By Michael Bresciani
A theorist is someone who holds and expounds a theory. Often the elements of the theory are expostulated on things that may never be known. Was there another shooter on the grassy knowle, where is Osama Bin Laden? Those trying to vet Obama even post inaugural are not trying to prove a theory, here is why.
Most of those filing law suits to subpoena Obama's documents are lawyers, politicians and military people none who have ever been known to be conspiracy theorists on any subject. The attempt to put them in the same class with those who chase UFO sightings or those who are still looking for the Holy Grail is demeaning and ridiculous.
Questions about the body of Hitler, the whereabouts of Osama and how many shooters were on the grassy knowle and other conspiracy questions all have one thing in common; they are speculative and nearly un-answerable. Bringing a birth certificate or school records up out of a vault does not require a bit of speculation. All that's needed is a subpoena not a theory. Producing a document is in no way comparable to proving a theory.
The birth certificate in question is only one document that is conspicuously missing from Barack Obama's past. The list of documents is huge and it is one of the reasons all of them have been sought by various lawyers and interested parties.
Article II of the Constitution says "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
Those refusing to produce the requested documents are turning up their noses to the Constitution, to "we the people" and calling them "conspiracy theorists" will by no means make the question go away.
The premise of all the pending lawsuits is uniform and consistent even if they are poorly understood. The most common mistake is to see it as a few discontented people who don't like Barack Obama or who just can't handle the results of the election. It is true that this small but rapidly growing body of questioners think they have been victims of a fraud but the truth is that if what they are trying to show us has even an ounce of truth to it then 305,000,000 Americans have been subject to the fraud.
Neither the inauguration nor the crowds chanting "Obama" on the concourse will deter those who are determined to know the truth. After all even Jesus had people throwing palm branches in front of him one day and crowds crying out for his crucifixion the next. Many of those who called for Christ's death were no doubt the same ones who only the day before hailed him as their King. While Barack Obama may have the next four to eight years to sit in the oval office he may have no more than Andy Warhol's fifteen minutes of fame like everyone else on this planet.
It is the more obvious contradictions to the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution that has most of us worried about Obama's plans for America. His willingness to sign FOCA (freedom of choice act) into law would allow an abortion at any time during a pregnancy. That would nullify the "right to life" part of the Declaration and would render the "liberty and the pursuit of happiness" aspect of the Declaration a total impossibility. Isn't it a contradiction to say "all men are created equal" without including the unborn?
The Reverend Joseph Lowery elicited smiles and amen's at the Obama inauguration as he finished his prayer with the words "we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, and when white will embrace what is right." Why did he not add "when the unborn will be allowed to live on?"
Obama's willingness to re-insert hate crime legislation into the congress for approval ignores the provisions of the fourteenth amendment and creates a conflict between the first amendment and the proposed provisions of the hate crimes bill.
It takes no genius to see that if the Congress can make no law regarding the establishment of religion then to enact hate crime legislation that prohibits someone from declaring the tenants of their religion as it pertains to the practice of homosexual behavior is to defy the first amendment of the Bill of Rights and do great damage to the first amendment of the Constitution.
This nation has produced some of the most amazing personalities the world has ever known but we must not forget that it is not a nation of personalities but a nation of laws. It is those laws that create the field in which great personalities can be fostered.
A refusal to remember that laws are our very foundation can result in something other nations have already learned. Disregarding founding principles is possible and only how long it takes to recover from such a path is what remains to be answered.
It took Germany sixty years to go from crowds of people chanting "Heil Hitler" to a recovery and re-establishment into the world community. It took three decades for China to recover from crowds of youth smashing every semblance of their long and historic past under the sway of Mao. It has taken the bully Soviet Union around six decades to realize that every individual has rights and the "state" is not greater than the sum of its parts.
How long will it take America to realize that its Constitution is the immovable rock of our free republic? The answer to this is up to us. It may take years but it does not have to, it may take only as long as it takes to comply with the law and answer only one or two well placed subpoenas.
God help us to get on with it.
© Michael Bresciani
The subpoenas from us, document activists, can be reviewed here:
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/raft-of-subpoenas.html
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/re-raft-of-subpoenas.html
More details on the trip to Pakistan, from a reader Linda
Few Details Known About Obama’s Three Weeks in Pakistan
Monday, November 03, 2008
By Patrick Goodenough, International Editor
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama enters a rally at the University of Cincinnati in Ohio on Sunday, Nov. 2, 2008.(AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
(CNSNews.com) – As the presidential election campaign draws to a close, unanswered questions about Barack Obama’s three-week visit to Pakistan 27 years ago continue to cause unease in some quarters, but his campaign has revealed few details.
Last April during a San Francisco fundraiser, Obama referred briefly to a visit he had made to Pakistan during his college years.
Campaign press secretary Bill Burton subsequently gave inquiring journalists a few facts. Obama had visited Pakistan for “about three weeks” in 1981, after visiting his mother in Indonesia . He had traveled with a college friend whose family lived in Karachi . He had also visited Hyderabad in India , Burton said.
Word of the visit surprised observers. The Democratic presidential hopeful has not mentioned it before while campaigning, nor has he written about it in either of his memoirs.
“[It] was news to many of us who have been following the race closely,” wrote ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper at the time. “And it was odd that we hadn’t heard about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.”
The news sparked considerable discussion online, with questions asked about why and how an American college student would have visited Pakistan at that time and what he would have done there.
(The remark in San Francisco was a passing one, evidently aimed at boosting his foreign policy credentials in relation to those of Sens. John McCain and Hillary Clinton. Having visited Pakistan , Obama said, he knew the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam before he became a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.)
A few more details of the visit trickled out over the following months.
The 1981 visit took place after Obama left Occidental College in Los Angeles to transfer to Columbia University in New York that same year.
Obama stayed in Karachi with the family of a college friend, Muhammed Hasan Chandoo. Now a financial consultant in Armonk , N.Y. , and an Obama fundraiser, Chandoo on Sunday declined to comment. He confirmed he was Obama’s “friend” and former “roommate,” but said, “I decided at the beginning of the campaign that I’d stay out of this whole game.”
According to published reports in Pakistan , Obama in 1981 also stayed at the home of a prominent politician, Ahmad Mian Soomro, in an upscale Karachi suburb, and went on a traditional partridge hunting trip north of Karachi . Soomro’s son, Muhammad Mian Soomro, is a senior politician who served as acting president before the appointment of President Asif Ali Zardari last September.
Ahmad Mian Soomro died in 1999, and attempts to reach his son for comment were unsuccessful.
An Associated Press story in May mentioned several of Obama’s Pakistani college friends, as well as an Indian friend, Vinai Thummalapally from Hyderabad , India .
The following month the Times of India, citing Thummalapally, said Obama’s staff got it wrong – Obama had not visited Hyderabad in India but Hyderabad in Pakistan .
( Hyderabad in Pakistan is a three-hour drive from Karachi . A city of about 1.5 million people – around 750,000 in 1981 – it boasts a famous bazaar. Hyderabad in India is about 900 miles from Karachi . Capital of Andhra Pradash state, it has a mostly Hindu population of about six million and is renowned for visitor attractions including forts and temples.)
Obama may have visited Pakistan again later, when his mother, Ann Dunham, held a microfinance job there in the mid-1980s.
A Lahore-based Urdu newspaper, Daily Waqt, reported last August that Dunham worked as a consultant for a Pakistan Agricultural Development Bank program that ran from 1987 to 1992.
The project was in Gujranwala , the paper said, but Dunham stayed at a hotel in nearby Lahore , where Obama reportedly visited her. Dunham died in Hawaii in 1995.
Dangerous destination
Southwestern Asia was a risky place for a Westerner to visit in 1981, although it is unclear whether travel to Pakistan was actually restricted. (The U.S. government at the time advised against visits to Afghanistan and had recently lifted a ban on travel to Iran .)
Two years earlier, the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan; the Islamic revolution toppled the Shah in Iran; a frenzied mob attacked the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, setting it on fire and killing a U.S. Marine and two Pakistanis; and military ruler Gen. Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq hanged former prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto – Benazir Bhutto’s father – whose government he had ousted in a 1977 coup.
Pakistan in 1981 was under martial law, with opposition politicians incarcerated, judges sacked, media censorship enforced and anti-government strikes underway.
The year Obama visited was also a particularly dangerous one for Americans. During a hijacking that March of a Pakistan passenger liner, three Americans onboard were singled out and threatened with death. (Interestingly, two of the three turned out to be wanted in the U.S. and Canada , respectively, for drug-related offenses. Pakistan at the time was a major source of heroin distributed in the U.S. , along with fellow “golden crescent” states Iran and Afghanistan .)
Pakistan in 1981 also was awash with Afghan refugees who had fled their homeland after the Soviet invasion – two million by the end of that year. In Karachi Afghan arrivals added to simmering sectarian and inter-ethnic tensions that was to blight Pakistan ’s largest city during the 1980s and 1990s.
The U.S. in 1981 stepped up funding, via Pakistan , to Afghans fighting the Soviet forces. Thousands of Arab and other foreign mujahideen flocked to Pakistan and Afghanistan to join the war.
In the early 1980s, a Palestinian ideologue named Abdullah Azzam was coordinating the jihad from Peshawar , near the Afghanistan border. Azzam, who also taught at Islamabad ’s International Islamic University, visited America numerous times during the 1980s, urging support for the war in Afghanistan .
Described as a charismatic orator, he told fanciful tales of Islamic warriors not being harmed by Soviet tanks and bullets, and slain martyrs whose corpses did not decay.
Azzam’s Peshawar center was known as the Afghan Bureau. His deputy and financier was a Saudi named Osama bin Laden. Azzam is regarded by many scholars as having laid the ideological groundwork for modern-day jihad. After his assassination in a 1989 bomb blast, bin Laden took over the bureau and developed what would become al-Qaeda.
‘Morbid thoughts’
How much – if anything – the 19- or 20-year-old Obama knew about the Afghanistan jihad during that 1981 visit is unclear.
But it’s precisely the shortage of details that worries some, like veteran security analyst Bahukutumbi Raman, a former Indian counterterrorism chief.
Mulling how a President Obama would deal with each of South Asia’s historical foes, Raman said that as an Indian, he naturally felt troubled that Obama had not disclosed the Pakistan visit earlier.
“Why did he keep mum on his visit to Pakistan till this question was raised?” asked Raman, who is the director of India ’s Institute for Topical Studies. “Has he disclosed all the details regarding his Pakistan visit? Was it as innocuous as made out by him – to respond to the invitation of a Pakistani friend or was there something more to it?”
Raman continued, “As I read about Obama’s visit to Pakistan in the 1980s, I could not help thinking of dozens of things. Of the Afghan jihad against communism. Of the fascination of many Afro-Americans for the jihad. Of the visits of a stream of Afro-Americans to Pakistan to feel the greatness of the jihad. Of their fascination for Abdullah Azzam …”
Raman said although having such thoughts may seem “morbid,” it was “understandable when one has a feeling that one has not been told the whole story, but only a part of it.”
“It is the right of the Americans to decide who should be their president,” he said. “It is my right to worry about the implications of their decision for the rest of the world, including India .”
The Obama campaign did not respond to an invitation to comment on some of the speculation surrounding the visit to Pakistan or to provide further details about the trip.
Monday, November 03, 2008
By Patrick Goodenough, International Editor
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama enters a rally at the University of Cincinnati in Ohio on Sunday, Nov. 2, 2008.(AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
(CNSNews.com) – As the presidential election campaign draws to a close, unanswered questions about Barack Obama’s three-week visit to Pakistan 27 years ago continue to cause unease in some quarters, but his campaign has revealed few details.
Last April during a San Francisco fundraiser, Obama referred briefly to a visit he had made to Pakistan during his college years.
Campaign press secretary Bill Burton subsequently gave inquiring journalists a few facts. Obama had visited Pakistan for “about three weeks” in 1981, after visiting his mother in Indonesia . He had traveled with a college friend whose family lived in Karachi . He had also visited Hyderabad in India , Burton said.
Word of the visit surprised observers. The Democratic presidential hopeful has not mentioned it before while campaigning, nor has he written about it in either of his memoirs.
“[It] was news to many of us who have been following the race closely,” wrote ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper at the time. “And it was odd that we hadn’t heard about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.”
The news sparked considerable discussion online, with questions asked about why and how an American college student would have visited Pakistan at that time and what he would have done there.
(The remark in San Francisco was a passing one, evidently aimed at boosting his foreign policy credentials in relation to those of Sens. John McCain and Hillary Clinton. Having visited Pakistan , Obama said, he knew the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam before he became a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.)
A few more details of the visit trickled out over the following months.
The 1981 visit took place after Obama left Occidental College in Los Angeles to transfer to Columbia University in New York that same year.
Obama stayed in Karachi with the family of a college friend, Muhammed Hasan Chandoo. Now a financial consultant in Armonk , N.Y. , and an Obama fundraiser, Chandoo on Sunday declined to comment. He confirmed he was Obama’s “friend” and former “roommate,” but said, “I decided at the beginning of the campaign that I’d stay out of this whole game.”
According to published reports in Pakistan , Obama in 1981 also stayed at the home of a prominent politician, Ahmad Mian Soomro, in an upscale Karachi suburb, and went on a traditional partridge hunting trip north of Karachi . Soomro’s son, Muhammad Mian Soomro, is a senior politician who served as acting president before the appointment of President Asif Ali Zardari last September.
Ahmad Mian Soomro died in 1999, and attempts to reach his son for comment were unsuccessful.
An Associated Press story in May mentioned several of Obama’s Pakistani college friends, as well as an Indian friend, Vinai Thummalapally from Hyderabad , India .
The following month the Times of India, citing Thummalapally, said Obama’s staff got it wrong – Obama had not visited Hyderabad in India but Hyderabad in Pakistan .
( Hyderabad in Pakistan is a three-hour drive from Karachi . A city of about 1.5 million people – around 750,000 in 1981 – it boasts a famous bazaar. Hyderabad in India is about 900 miles from Karachi . Capital of Andhra Pradash state, it has a mostly Hindu population of about six million and is renowned for visitor attractions including forts and temples.)
Obama may have visited Pakistan again later, when his mother, Ann Dunham, held a microfinance job there in the mid-1980s.
A Lahore-based Urdu newspaper, Daily Waqt, reported last August that Dunham worked as a consultant for a Pakistan Agricultural Development Bank program that ran from 1987 to 1992.
The project was in Gujranwala , the paper said, but Dunham stayed at a hotel in nearby Lahore , where Obama reportedly visited her. Dunham died in Hawaii in 1995.
Dangerous destination
Southwestern Asia was a risky place for a Westerner to visit in 1981, although it is unclear whether travel to Pakistan was actually restricted. (The U.S. government at the time advised against visits to Afghanistan and had recently lifted a ban on travel to Iran .)
Two years earlier, the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan; the Islamic revolution toppled the Shah in Iran; a frenzied mob attacked the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, setting it on fire and killing a U.S. Marine and two Pakistanis; and military ruler Gen. Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq hanged former prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto – Benazir Bhutto’s father – whose government he had ousted in a 1977 coup.
Pakistan in 1981 was under martial law, with opposition politicians incarcerated, judges sacked, media censorship enforced and anti-government strikes underway.
The year Obama visited was also a particularly dangerous one for Americans. During a hijacking that March of a Pakistan passenger liner, three Americans onboard were singled out and threatened with death. (Interestingly, two of the three turned out to be wanted in the U.S. and Canada , respectively, for drug-related offenses. Pakistan at the time was a major source of heroin distributed in the U.S. , along with fellow “golden crescent” states Iran and Afghanistan .)
Pakistan in 1981 also was awash with Afghan refugees who had fled their homeland after the Soviet invasion – two million by the end of that year. In Karachi Afghan arrivals added to simmering sectarian and inter-ethnic tensions that was to blight Pakistan ’s largest city during the 1980s and 1990s.
The U.S. in 1981 stepped up funding, via Pakistan , to Afghans fighting the Soviet forces. Thousands of Arab and other foreign mujahideen flocked to Pakistan and Afghanistan to join the war.
In the early 1980s, a Palestinian ideologue named Abdullah Azzam was coordinating the jihad from Peshawar , near the Afghanistan border. Azzam, who also taught at Islamabad ’s International Islamic University, visited America numerous times during the 1980s, urging support for the war in Afghanistan .
Described as a charismatic orator, he told fanciful tales of Islamic warriors not being harmed by Soviet tanks and bullets, and slain martyrs whose corpses did not decay.
Azzam’s Peshawar center was known as the Afghan Bureau. His deputy and financier was a Saudi named Osama bin Laden. Azzam is regarded by many scholars as having laid the ideological groundwork for modern-day jihad. After his assassination in a 1989 bomb blast, bin Laden took over the bureau and developed what would become al-Qaeda.
‘Morbid thoughts’
How much – if anything – the 19- or 20-year-old Obama knew about the Afghanistan jihad during that 1981 visit is unclear.
But it’s precisely the shortage of details that worries some, like veteran security analyst Bahukutumbi Raman, a former Indian counterterrorism chief.
Mulling how a President Obama would deal with each of South Asia’s historical foes, Raman said that as an Indian, he naturally felt troubled that Obama had not disclosed the Pakistan visit earlier.
“Why did he keep mum on his visit to Pakistan till this question was raised?” asked Raman, who is the director of India ’s Institute for Topical Studies. “Has he disclosed all the details regarding his Pakistan visit? Was it as innocuous as made out by him – to respond to the invitation of a Pakistani friend or was there something more to it?”
Raman continued, “As I read about Obama’s visit to Pakistan in the 1980s, I could not help thinking of dozens of things. Of the Afghan jihad against communism. Of the fascination of many Afro-Americans for the jihad. Of the visits of a stream of Afro-Americans to Pakistan to feel the greatness of the jihad. Of their fascination for Abdullah Azzam …”
Raman said although having such thoughts may seem “morbid,” it was “understandable when one has a feeling that one has not been told the whole story, but only a part of it.”
“It is the right of the Americans to decide who should be their president,” he said. “It is my right to worry about the implications of their decision for the rest of the world, including India .”
The Obama campaign did not respond to an invitation to comment on some of the speculation surrounding the visit to Pakistan or to provide further details about the trip.
Dispatch from Nairobi "Obama funded foreign thug who promised Muslim state"
DISPATCH FROM NAIROBI
Obama funded foreign thug who promised Islamic state
Agreement with Muslims pledged to protect terrorists, throttle Christians, impose Shariah
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: October 19, 2008
8:45 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Sen. Barack Obama with Raila Odinga
NEW YORK – A controversial Kenyan leader for whom Sen. Barack Obama not only campaigned but raised almost $1 million during the run-up to that nation's 2007 presidential election, concluded a written agreement with Muslim leaders stipulating that if they delivered him the Muslim vote, he would in turn, once elected, change the constitution to declare Islamic law as the ruling authority in Muslim-dominated regions, protect terrorists and muzzle Christian evangelism.
WND previously documented that Obama supported and campaigned for Kenya opposition leader Raila Odinga during a 2006 senatorial "fact-finding" trip to Kenya and subsequently reported on documents revealing Obama's part in raising almost $1 million for Odinga.
According to a BBC report, Odinga says Obama's father was his maternal uncle. Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan, married the Democratic presidential candidates' American mother while both were attending the University of Hawaii .
Odinga took over the office of prime minister in Kenya after his campaign called for protests of an election he lost by more than 200,000 votes to incumbent Mwai Kibaki. The resulting violence by marauding Muslim mobs left 1,000 people dead, hundreds of thousands displaced from their homes and 800 Christian churches damaged or destroyed. No Islamic mosques were damaged, however.
Among the worst attacks occurred when several dozen women and children sought refuge in a Christian church which mobs burned down on top of them.
WND has reported that the violence appears to have been part of Odinga's campaign strategy. Former members of Odinga's Orange Democratic Movement party, or ODM, claim Obama did not call on Odinga to drop his voter-fraud campaign or withdraw from his pursuit of the presidency even after he lost and the violence erupted.
(Story continues below)
WND has confirmed that at one point, then-United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice actually pressured Kenyan Vice President Kolonzo to step down from his position to bring the Odinga-connected Luo-mob protest violence to an end by appointing Odinga vice president so he could assume the nation's second highest political office.
When Kolonzo refused to step down, Annan and Rice proposed the Odinga-inspired plan of appointing him as prime minister, effectively allowing Odinga to share the head-of-state position with Kibaki, a solution that was adopted.
Now WND has obtained a copy of Odinga's agreement with Sheik Abdullahi Abdi, the chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum, that outlined plans, among other things, for wide-ranging attacks on Christians.
In the August 2007 document, Odinga promised that within six months of becoming president he would "rewrite the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared religions."
While in Kenya earlier this month, WND interviewed several Christians who had been officials in Odinga's ODM, but who had left the party and abandoned Odinga after learning of his agreement with Muslims. Their names cannot be disclosed here as they fear for their lives.
Those sources, considered highly credible, told WND there are several versions of the agreement that have been floated around on the Internet, but that the document reproduced by WND is authentic. In fact, they went through the document line by line with WND to confirm its legitimacy.
A news video (below) of a press conference held during the Kenyan election campaign and broadcast in Kenya by Nairobi-based NTV shows Sheik Abdullah Abdi, chairman of National Muslim Leaders Forum, discussing the agreement.
Although Odinga later produced a "short version" that sanitized the agreement, highly credible sources close to Odinga confirmed for WND that the long version reproduced by WND is authentic, and that the short version was produced just to defuse the controversy.
Indeed, one of the main reasons WND went to Kenya was to meet ex-ODM officials who would validate the original memorandum of understanding as authentic.
In the document signed by Odinga and the chairman of the National Muslims Leaders Forum, the Muslims promised to "enable and assist ODM and The Candidate win theNational Elections and the Presidency of the Republic of Kenya ."
The Muslims agreed to "issue a joint statement declaring that all Muslims should support and vote for Raila Amollo Odinga and ODM" and "engage in active campaigns for Raila Amollo Odinga and ODM through the Republic and impress upon Muslims, publicly and emphatically, the requirement to vote for ODM and Raila Amollo Odinga."
In return, Odinga agreed to give "the Council of Islamic leaders … an oversight role to monitor activities of ALL (emphasis in original) other religions and any applications for religious activities and institutions will require their approval. They shall have the right to deny approval to cults and other evil practices."
The plan apparently was to turn regions of Kenya , which has long been a Christian-majority nation, into Islamic states.
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In addition to promising to re-write the Kenyan constitution and enshrine Islamic Shariah law, Odinga promised to immediately "dismiss the Commissioner of Police who has allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists to oppress the Kenya Muslim community."
Further, Muslims suspected of terrorism, even international terrorism, were to be provided new protections, with Odinga's promise to: "Disband the imperialist Anti-Terror Police Unit (ATPU) that was set up for the sole purpose of terrorizing, harassing, intimidating and deporting innocent Kenyan Muslims to Guantanamo Bay."
Further, Odinga agreed, "No Muslim residing in Kenya whether a citizen, visitor or relative of any of the above shall be subjected to any process involving the laws of a foreign country and in particular any Muslim arrested for or suspected of Terrorism or any other International crime shall only be tried within the boarders (sic) of Kenya. …"
The power and influence of Islam was to be further extended with Odinga's promise to "within 1 year facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenya divisional headquarters" and to "popularize Islam, the only true religion … by ordering every primary school in Kenya in the regions to conduct daily Madrassa class."
Strict Islamic Shariah law was to be enforced with immediate crackdowns on alcohol, pork and other "haram" products and practices, including a ban "on women's public dressing styles that are considered immoral and offensive to the Muslim faith in the Muslim regions of the Coastal and Northeastern regions."
And ominously, Christianity was to be subjected to a formal crackdown with Odinga's promise to "impose a total ban on open-air gospel crusades by worshippers of the cross in the Coastal and North Eastern regions" and his plan to "outlaw gospel programs (preaching, purported faith healing, etc.) on KBC, the National Broadcaster."
View the entire three-page document titled "Memorandum of Understanding Between Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga Representing the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) and National Muslim Leaders Forum (NAMLEF)."
Obama funded foreign thug who promised Islamic state
Agreement with Muslims pledged to protect terrorists, throttle Christians, impose Shariah
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: October 19, 2008
8:45 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Sen. Barack Obama with Raila Odinga
NEW YORK – A controversial Kenyan leader for whom Sen. Barack Obama not only campaigned but raised almost $1 million during the run-up to that nation's 2007 presidential election, concluded a written agreement with Muslim leaders stipulating that if they delivered him the Muslim vote, he would in turn, once elected, change the constitution to declare Islamic law as the ruling authority in Muslim-dominated regions, protect terrorists and muzzle Christian evangelism.
WND previously documented that Obama supported and campaigned for Kenya opposition leader Raila Odinga during a 2006 senatorial "fact-finding" trip to Kenya and subsequently reported on documents revealing Obama's part in raising almost $1 million for Odinga.
According to a BBC report, Odinga says Obama's father was his maternal uncle. Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan, married the Democratic presidential candidates' American mother while both were attending the University of Hawaii .
Odinga took over the office of prime minister in Kenya after his campaign called for protests of an election he lost by more than 200,000 votes to incumbent Mwai Kibaki. The resulting violence by marauding Muslim mobs left 1,000 people dead, hundreds of thousands displaced from their homes and 800 Christian churches damaged or destroyed. No Islamic mosques were damaged, however.
Among the worst attacks occurred when several dozen women and children sought refuge in a Christian church which mobs burned down on top of them.
WND has reported that the violence appears to have been part of Odinga's campaign strategy. Former members of Odinga's Orange Democratic Movement party, or ODM, claim Obama did not call on Odinga to drop his voter-fraud campaign or withdraw from his pursuit of the presidency even after he lost and the violence erupted.
(Story continues below)
WND has confirmed that at one point, then-United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice actually pressured Kenyan Vice President Kolonzo to step down from his position to bring the Odinga-connected Luo-mob protest violence to an end by appointing Odinga vice president so he could assume the nation's second highest political office.
When Kolonzo refused to step down, Annan and Rice proposed the Odinga-inspired plan of appointing him as prime minister, effectively allowing Odinga to share the head-of-state position with Kibaki, a solution that was adopted.
Now WND has obtained a copy of Odinga's agreement with Sheik Abdullahi Abdi, the chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum, that outlined plans, among other things, for wide-ranging attacks on Christians.
In the August 2007 document, Odinga promised that within six months of becoming president he would "rewrite the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared religions."
While in Kenya earlier this month, WND interviewed several Christians who had been officials in Odinga's ODM, but who had left the party and abandoned Odinga after learning of his agreement with Muslims. Their names cannot be disclosed here as they fear for their lives.
Those sources, considered highly credible, told WND there are several versions of the agreement that have been floated around on the Internet, but that the document reproduced by WND is authentic. In fact, they went through the document line by line with WND to confirm its legitimacy.
A news video (below) of a press conference held during the Kenyan election campaign and broadcast in Kenya by Nairobi-based NTV shows Sheik Abdullah Abdi, chairman of National Muslim Leaders Forum, discussing the agreement.
Although Odinga later produced a "short version" that sanitized the agreement, highly credible sources close to Odinga confirmed for WND that the long version reproduced by WND is authentic, and that the short version was produced just to defuse the controversy.
Indeed, one of the main reasons WND went to Kenya was to meet ex-ODM officials who would validate the original memorandum of understanding as authentic.
In the document signed by Odinga and the chairman of the National Muslims Leaders Forum, the Muslims promised to "enable and assist ODM and The Candidate win theNational Elections and the Presidency of the Republic of Kenya ."
The Muslims agreed to "issue a joint statement declaring that all Muslims should support and vote for Raila Amollo Odinga and ODM" and "engage in active campaigns for Raila Amollo Odinga and ODM through the Republic and impress upon Muslims, publicly and emphatically, the requirement to vote for ODM and Raila Amollo Odinga."
In return, Odinga agreed to give "the Council of Islamic leaders … an oversight role to monitor activities of ALL (emphasis in original) other religions and any applications for religious activities and institutions will require their approval. They shall have the right to deny approval to cults and other evil practices."
The plan apparently was to turn regions of Kenya , which has long been a Christian-majority nation, into Islamic states.
Get the book that started it all – Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation," personally autographed – for only $4.95, available today, but only from WND!
In addition to promising to re-write the Kenyan constitution and enshrine Islamic Shariah law, Odinga promised to immediately "dismiss the Commissioner of Police who has allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists to oppress the Kenya Muslim community."
Further, Muslims suspected of terrorism, even international terrorism, were to be provided new protections, with Odinga's promise to: "Disband the imperialist Anti-Terror Police Unit (ATPU) that was set up for the sole purpose of terrorizing, harassing, intimidating and deporting innocent Kenyan Muslims to Guantanamo Bay."
Further, Odinga agreed, "No Muslim residing in Kenya whether a citizen, visitor or relative of any of the above shall be subjected to any process involving the laws of a foreign country and in particular any Muslim arrested for or suspected of Terrorism or any other International crime shall only be tried within the boarders (sic) of Kenya. …"
The power and influence of Islam was to be further extended with Odinga's promise to "within 1 year facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenya divisional headquarters" and to "popularize Islam, the only true religion … by ordering every primary school in Kenya in the regions to conduct daily Madrassa class."
Strict Islamic Shariah law was to be enforced with immediate crackdowns on alcohol, pork and other "haram" products and practices, including a ban "on women's public dressing styles that are considered immoral and offensive to the Muslim faith in the Muslim regions of the Coastal and Northeastern regions."
And ominously, Christianity was to be subjected to a formal crackdown with Odinga's promise to "impose a total ban on open-air gospel crusades by worshippers of the cross in the Coastal and North Eastern regions" and his plan to "outlaw gospel programs (preaching, purported faith healing, etc.) on KBC, the National Broadcaster."
View the entire three-page document titled "Memorandum of Understanding Between Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga Representing the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) and National Muslim Leaders Forum (NAMLEF)."
Article about my case Lightfoot v Bowen, published in World News Daily
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OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
President's meeting with judges questioned
Lawyer challenging eligibility raises issue of secret conference
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Posted: January 23, 2009
12:25 am Eastern
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
A lawyer who is working on one of the cases before the U.S. Supreme Court that challenges the eligibility of President Barack Obama to occupy the Oval Office is raising concerns over a meeting between the defendant in the case and the judges who are expected to review it.
The case is one of many brought before U.S. courts that allege Obama doesn't meet the "natural born" requirement of the U.S. Constitution for the president. It's one of about half a dozen that have reached the U.S. Supreme Court, which already has declined to grant hearings to several cases.
Orly Taitz, whose case is scheduled to be heard tomorrow in a conference among justices, a private meeting at which they review cases and decide whether they should hold a hearing, confirmed on her website today that a supplemental brief in her arguments had been distributed.
But the website also reported she "had to explain … many of us citizens are also concerned about the eight out of nine justices meeting privately with Mr. Obama (while the cases are pending)."
(Story continues below)
The blog continued, "No reporters were allowed. No attorneys were invited on behalf of the plaintiffs. This causes many of us citizens to question the rules of judicial ethics and causes us to question the impartiality on behalf of the justices."
The report said "quite a number of people" have raised their questions with their U.S. representatives over the issues.
According to a CBS report, Obama visited the Supreme Court before his inauguration at the invitation of Chief Justice John Roberts. The report described it as a protocol visit.
According to a separate published report, Obama and then-Vice President-elect Joe Biden met in a court conference room with Roberts and seven other justices for about 45 minutes.
The report said the only absent justice was Samuel Alito.
Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 215,000 others and sign the petition demanding proof of eligibility now!
The supplemental documents in the Taitz case cite an executive order concerning qualifications issued by President George Bush on Jan. 16.
"This action is seeking the mandate for the U.S. State Department, the FBI and the Director of the Personnel Department to seek the documents for verifying Obama's legitimacy as president and also his citizenship of the United States," the blog reported.
The Supreme Court document reveals that the Taitz case is scheduled for conference tomorrow, and her supplemental briefs have been distributed to the justices.
Taitz said her arguments rest on precedents from both the California Supreme Court, which years ago removed a candidate for president from the ballot because he was only 34, and the U.S. Supreme Court's affirmation of the ruling. The Constitution requires a president to be 35. Her case raises not the issue of age, but Obama's birthplace and citizenship status, which also are specified in the Constitution.
The lawsuits that have been brought allege in various ways Obama does not meet the "natural born citizen" clause of the U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which reads, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
Some allege his birth took place in Kenya, and his mother was a minor at the time of his birth – too young to confer American citizenship. They argue Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., was a Kenyan citizen subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time and would have handed down British citizenship.
There also are questions raised about Obama's move to Indonesia when he was a child and his attendance at school there when only Indonesian citizens were allowed and his travel to Pakistan in the '80s when such travel was forbidden to American citizens.
One case, being handled by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation, is seeking Obama's school records from Occidental College, which could reveal if Obama, for example, attended class on aid intended for foreign students.
Another lawyer working on similar allegations, Philip J. Berg, has written to Congress seeking an investigation, while Taitz' filings have been before the U.S. Supreme Court.
Berg, whose information is on his ObamaCrimes.com website, said the issue isn't going to disappear.
Others agreed.
"Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void," argues a California case brought on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes, also a presidential candidate. "Americans will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal."
WND twice has organized opportunities for readers to send FedEx letters to the Supreme Court, asking for consideration of the issue on its merits.
The most recent campaign generated 12,096 messages, following the earlier effort that resulted in 60,128 letters.
Obama has claimed in his autobiography and elsewhere that he was born in Hawaii in 1961 to parents Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Kenyan national, and Stanley Ann Dunham, a minor. But details about which hospital handled the birth and other details provided on the complete birth certificate have been withheld by Obama despite lawsuits and public demands for release.
Meanwhile, a separate report has emerged in the Buffalo, N.Y., News about a woman who said she recalled being told about Obama's birth in Hawaii. Barbara Nelson reported she was having a dinner with Dr. Rodney T. West, an obstetrician, when he discussed the birth of a baby boy to Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's mother.
She said she later taught Obama as a high school student in Hawaii.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi went to both Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question was why, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists as his campaign has stated, Obama hasn't simply ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
The governor's office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan birth in Hawaii?
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OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
President's meeting with judges questioned
Lawyer challenging eligibility raises issue of secret conference
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Posted: January 23, 2009
12:25 am Eastern
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
A lawyer who is working on one of the cases before the U.S. Supreme Court that challenges the eligibility of President Barack Obama to occupy the Oval Office is raising concerns over a meeting between the defendant in the case and the judges who are expected to review it.
The case is one of many brought before U.S. courts that allege Obama doesn't meet the "natural born" requirement of the U.S. Constitution for the president. It's one of about half a dozen that have reached the U.S. Supreme Court, which already has declined to grant hearings to several cases.
Orly Taitz, whose case is scheduled to be heard tomorrow in a conference among justices, a private meeting at which they review cases and decide whether they should hold a hearing, confirmed on her website today that a supplemental brief in her arguments had been distributed.
But the website also reported she "had to explain … many of us citizens are also concerned about the eight out of nine justices meeting privately with Mr. Obama (while the cases are pending)."
(Story continues below)
The blog continued, "No reporters were allowed. No attorneys were invited on behalf of the plaintiffs. This causes many of us citizens to question the rules of judicial ethics and causes us to question the impartiality on behalf of the justices."
The report said "quite a number of people" have raised their questions with their U.S. representatives over the issues.
According to a CBS report, Obama visited the Supreme Court before his inauguration at the invitation of Chief Justice John Roberts. The report described it as a protocol visit.
According to a separate published report, Obama and then-Vice President-elect Joe Biden met in a court conference room with Roberts and seven other justices for about 45 minutes.
The report said the only absent justice was Samuel Alito.
Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 215,000 others and sign the petition demanding proof of eligibility now!
The supplemental documents in the Taitz case cite an executive order concerning qualifications issued by President George Bush on Jan. 16.
"This action is seeking the mandate for the U.S. State Department, the FBI and the Director of the Personnel Department to seek the documents for verifying Obama's legitimacy as president and also his citizenship of the United States," the blog reported.
The Supreme Court document reveals that the Taitz case is scheduled for conference tomorrow, and her supplemental briefs have been distributed to the justices.
Taitz said her arguments rest on precedents from both the California Supreme Court, which years ago removed a candidate for president from the ballot because he was only 34, and the U.S. Supreme Court's affirmation of the ruling. The Constitution requires a president to be 35. Her case raises not the issue of age, but Obama's birthplace and citizenship status, which also are specified in the Constitution.
The lawsuits that have been brought allege in various ways Obama does not meet the "natural born citizen" clause of the U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which reads, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
Some allege his birth took place in Kenya, and his mother was a minor at the time of his birth – too young to confer American citizenship. They argue Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., was a Kenyan citizen subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time and would have handed down British citizenship.
There also are questions raised about Obama's move to Indonesia when he was a child and his attendance at school there when only Indonesian citizens were allowed and his travel to Pakistan in the '80s when such travel was forbidden to American citizens.
One case, being handled by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation, is seeking Obama's school records from Occidental College, which could reveal if Obama, for example, attended class on aid intended for foreign students.
Another lawyer working on similar allegations, Philip J. Berg, has written to Congress seeking an investigation, while Taitz' filings have been before the U.S. Supreme Court.
Berg, whose information is on his ObamaCrimes.com website, said the issue isn't going to disappear.
Others agreed.
"Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void," argues a California case brought on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes, also a presidential candidate. "Americans will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal."
WND twice has organized opportunities for readers to send FedEx letters to the Supreme Court, asking for consideration of the issue on its merits.
The most recent campaign generated 12,096 messages, following the earlier effort that resulted in 60,128 letters.
Obama has claimed in his autobiography and elsewhere that he was born in Hawaii in 1961 to parents Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Kenyan national, and Stanley Ann Dunham, a minor. But details about which hospital handled the birth and other details provided on the complete birth certificate have been withheld by Obama despite lawsuits and public demands for release.
Meanwhile, a separate report has emerged in the Buffalo, N.Y., News about a woman who said she recalled being told about Obama's birth in Hawaii. Barbara Nelson reported she was having a dinner with Dr. Rodney T. West, an obstetrician, when he discussed the birth of a baby boy to Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's mother.
She said she later taught Obama as a high school student in Hawaii.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi went to both Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question was why, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists as his campaign has stated, Obama hasn't simply ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
The governor's office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan birth in Hawaii?
from ea Leo
Here is another ACTION you can take (Orly’s Request):
Currently we are coordinating efforts to schedule personal meetings of groups of volunteers with Chief US attorneys for criminal matters in each and every district of the US. Mr. Ken Burr and George Lewis will be in charge of this projct. email MR Burr patriot@tx.rr.com
http://www.drorly.blogspot.com/
Most important on TO DO LIST:
It is easier to get a story on the Nightly News that some seem to think.
Go to your local TV Station with as big a crowd as you can gather, demand that our Congress investigate the “citizenship” of Barack Huessin Obama.
It is likely that if you draw a large enough crowd that your local TV Station will cover the story that you laid upon there doorstep and they will in turn feed said story to the Networks in New York and DC.
Currently we are coordinating efforts to schedule personal meetings of groups of volunteers with Chief US attorneys for criminal matters in each and every district of the US. Mr. Ken Burr and George Lewis will be in charge of this projct. email MR Burr patriot@tx.rr.com
http://www.drorly.blogspot.com/
Most important on TO DO LIST:
It is easier to get a story on the Nightly News that some seem to think.
Go to your local TV Station with as big a crowd as you can gather, demand that our Congress investigate the “citizenship” of Barack Huessin Obama.
It is likely that if you draw a large enough crowd that your local TV Station will cover the story that you laid upon there doorstep and they will in turn feed said story to the Networks in New York and DC.
Somebody got to wikipedia
The article below was posted on wikipedia. Later this article was mysteriously deleted. Can someone call people running wikipedia and check, who deleted this article and why?
At the same time all info about my case disappeared from Supreme Court Docket and only after a large number of people called the Supreme Court and complained (reportedly there was a meltdown of the phones at SCOTUS)information reappeared. Supreme court had no info, why did it happen.
At the same time Lisa Ostella called me in TX and stated that someone deleted my membership info with the attorney's bar and people were calling and questioning if Orly Taitz is my real name and if I really exist.
It is my real name and I really exist, though it looks like some people would rather I don't exist.
Orly Taitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Orly Taitz is a California attorney and Orange County dentist who is active among people who doubt Barack Obama is eligible to be president of the United States. Dr. Taitz represents nurse and Libertarian Party politician Gail Lightfoot in a case filed at the United States Supreme Court questioning Obama's eligibility. Dr. Taitz is also the lead attorney in...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orly_Taitz - Cached
At the same time all info about my case disappeared from Supreme Court Docket and only after a large number of people called the Supreme Court and complained (reportedly there was a meltdown of the phones at SCOTUS)information reappeared. Supreme court had no info, why did it happen.
At the same time Lisa Ostella called me in TX and stated that someone deleted my membership info with the attorney's bar and people were calling and questioning if Orly Taitz is my real name and if I really exist.
It is my real name and I really exist, though it looks like some people would rather I don't exist.
Orly Taitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Orly Taitz is a California attorney and Orange County dentist who is active among people who doubt Barack Obama is eligible to be president of the United States. Dr. Taitz represents nurse and Libertarian Party politician Gail Lightfoot in a case filed at the United States Supreme Court questioning Obama's eligibility. Dr. Taitz is also the lead attorney in...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orly_Taitz - Cached
From reader Steve Holloway
Good lady I hope you will pray with me and I pray before the throne of God. Dear Lord...please hear this prayer.... open the eyes and ears of the Justices. Make there hearts hurt to do your will Father. To follow the laws of this Great Land that exists because you willed it. We have lost our way as a nation Father and I pray you will forgive us. Please find another way to bring us as a nation closer to you. This person Obama will destroy us as a nation and your Christian followers. Please protect us and give us strength. Be with Dr. Orly and her family. Dear Lord pour out great blessing on her and give her a peace of mind. She is standing in the gap for this nation. Be with her Lord. In you mighty Son's name Jesus Christ we pray....Amen. Steve Holloway
The truth will out
Indeed !
Indeed !!
INDEED ! ! !
The incident itself, that is, The Flub/s, and the attendant hand-ringing exactitude over the oath's wording, including the due-over, is an EXQUISITE GIFT to those of us arguing precisely for AN ANALOGOUS, PRINCIPLED, RIGOROUS, LITERAL ANALYSIS OF THE < NATURAL BORN CITIZEN > CLAUSE, its text, the intent of the Framers, and its history in case and commentary, on the far more serious -- indeed potentially fatal -- error on the part of those who continue to choose to overlook that Constitutional command as a < suggestion > or < technicality > or mere < annoyance >.
IT IS A SIGN & A PORTENT ! { ThuSpeaketh Yourowthustra }
Further, consider the precious irony that it is Roberts, whose confirmation SoetorObama voted against, who was likewise commanded -- not requested -- by The Supreme Law of The Land to administer AN EXACT, PRECISE, LITERAL Oath, who is now assuredly the third of The Nine who wishes to docket an eligibility requirement case { ThomaScalia clearly the other two } : one more to go !
PRAY FOR THE SUCCESS OF DR. O. T.'s CHALLENGE @ TOMORROW'S CONFERENCE !
{barry'sgottasecret} but " THE TRUTH WILL OUT ! " { Hamlet }
Howard Charles Yourow, SJD
Indeed !!
INDEED ! ! !
The incident itself, that is, The Flub/s, and the attendant hand-ringing exactitude over the oath's wording, including the due-over, is an EXQUISITE GIFT to those of us arguing precisely for AN ANALOGOUS, PRINCIPLED, RIGOROUS, LITERAL ANALYSIS OF THE < NATURAL BORN CITIZEN > CLAUSE, its text, the intent of the Framers, and its history in case and commentary, on the far more serious -- indeed potentially fatal -- error on the part of those who continue to choose to overlook that Constitutional command as a < suggestion > or < technicality > or mere < annoyance >.
IT IS A SIGN & A PORTENT ! { ThuSpeaketh Yourowthustra }
Further, consider the precious irony that it is Roberts, whose confirmation SoetorObama voted against, who was likewise commanded -- not requested -- by The Supreme Law of The Land to administer AN EXACT, PRECISE, LITERAL Oath, who is now assuredly the third of The Nine who wishes to docket an eligibility requirement case { ThomaScalia clearly the other two } : one more to go !
PRAY FOR THE SUCCESS OF DR. O. T.'s CHALLENGE @ TOMORROW'S CONFERENCE !
{barry'sgottasecret} but " THE TRUTH WILL OUT ! " { Hamlet }
Howard Charles Yourow, SJD
Lynn Stuter -- SCOTUS message to the American people
Lynn Stuter -- SCOTUS message to the American people: "I sent the following to Senator Maria Cantwell and Senator Patty Murray, both Democrats and Representative Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Republican, all of Washington State:
On January 20, barring any return of reason to the celebratory climate of Washington DC while the rest of the country suffers from the stupidity of Congress in its thievery of the people's money, Barry Soetoro (his legal name as no proof exists that any other name is not an alias) will be sworn in as an illegal alien usurper to the highest office in the United States.
SCOTUS, because the justices are political appointees who service their masters as the prostitutes they have proven themselves to be have made it more than clear that they have and will continue to do their part to make sure this illegal alien usurper is sworn in.
The result of the failure of Congress to do its sworn duty to uphold the Constitution, the result of the failure of SCOTUS to do its sworn duty to uphold the Constitution, will result in a juggernaut of cases that will swamp the courts, send the entire judicial system into chaos, and insure that nothing gets done.
And as nothing gets done, and Marxist Soetoro continues to rape and pillage this country in pursuit of his Marxist agenda, the American people are going to rise up in revolt.
And to think, ladies, that all you had to do to stop it was to abide your oaths of office, your sworn duty to protect and defend the United States Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And the blunt truth is that America is headed for revolution if Soetoro is sworn in on January 20. You won't stop it and you won't quell it unless you do your sworn duty.
Those of us who have tried our damnedest to stop what the inevitable would be if this farce continued have had our attempts fall on deaf ears. We have provided the evidence and been told, through failure to act, that the evidence, the facts, are irrelevant.
And the bottom line, ladies, is that while you spit on the Constitution, the Constitution still matters to the American people you serve.
May God help the good people of this nation you have betrayed.
Read more.
Thursday, January 22, 2009
Yesterday a record number of 21,500 people visited our blog
I wanted to thank everybody for concern and well wishes. I just got ome from TX after some 48 hours with only 3 hours of sleep.
TX judge Burt Carnes has allowed me to represent Jody Brockhausen against Secretary of State of TX, he has signed my application to represent her Pro Hac Vice (out of state attorney), but his decision was that he has no jurisdiction to hear the case in the state court. It looked like his mind was made even before the hearing. He asked Assistant Attorney General how much time does she need, she stated 15-20 minutes, his response was that he needs only 3 minutes. He didn't even ask the plaintiff if she needs any time. When I protested, he originally was not willing to let me talk. When I asked him to allow me to represent her pro hac vice, pro bono after I made an effort of flying and driving from CA all night long, he stated that he didn't sign pro hca vice application, at which time I told him that there is nothing preventing him from signing it now. He finally agreed. I've stated that the examples given by the AJ relate to Fed Court and issues before the elections.
To the best of my knowledge there is nothing in TX law or precedents preventing a citizen from having standing and presenting a grievance and seeking resolution of violation of her civil rights in seeking verification of eligibility and legitimacy of the siting president. Judge Carnes provided no response and simply stated that there is no jurisdiction and pretty much told us to go, which we certainly did by going straight to the US attorney's office with a criminal complaint whereby my client's civil rights under 1st, 14 9 and 10th amendment were violated. If there is no jurisdiction in Federal court and State court, then the citizens have there civil rights de facto taken away from them and they are reduced to a level of slaves. A group of patriots and I had a meeting with Assistant US attorney Chris Peele and Chief US Attorney for the North-Western district of TX for Criminal matters, Richard Durbin. Mr. Durbin agreed to hear the matter and asked for our paperwork. We were shocked to find out how little they knew about the matter. Mr. Peele told us that he was under the impression that the case was heard on the merits. They had no clue that no Obama ineligibility case was ever heard on the merits, not one judicial subpoena was ever issued and nobody has ever seen his original birth certificate.
Currently we are coordinating efforts to schedule personal meetings of groups of volunteers with Chief US attorneys for criminal matters in each and every district of the US. Mr. Ken Burr and George Lewis will be in charge of this projct. email MR Burr patriot@tx.rr.com
TX judge Burt Carnes has allowed me to represent Jody Brockhausen against Secretary of State of TX, he has signed my application to represent her Pro Hac Vice (out of state attorney), but his decision was that he has no jurisdiction to hear the case in the state court. It looked like his mind was made even before the hearing. He asked Assistant Attorney General how much time does she need, she stated 15-20 minutes, his response was that he needs only 3 minutes. He didn't even ask the plaintiff if she needs any time. When I protested, he originally was not willing to let me talk. When I asked him to allow me to represent her pro hac vice, pro bono after I made an effort of flying and driving from CA all night long, he stated that he didn't sign pro hca vice application, at which time I told him that there is nothing preventing him from signing it now. He finally agreed. I've stated that the examples given by the AJ relate to Fed Court and issues before the elections.
To the best of my knowledge there is nothing in TX law or precedents preventing a citizen from having standing and presenting a grievance and seeking resolution of violation of her civil rights in seeking verification of eligibility and legitimacy of the siting president. Judge Carnes provided no response and simply stated that there is no jurisdiction and pretty much told us to go, which we certainly did by going straight to the US attorney's office with a criminal complaint whereby my client's civil rights under 1st, 14 9 and 10th amendment were violated. If there is no jurisdiction in Federal court and State court, then the citizens have there civil rights de facto taken away from them and they are reduced to a level of slaves. A group of patriots and I had a meeting with Assistant US attorney Chris Peele and Chief US Attorney for the North-Western district of TX for Criminal matters, Richard Durbin. Mr. Durbin agreed to hear the matter and asked for our paperwork. We were shocked to find out how little they knew about the matter. Mr. Peele told us that he was under the impression that the case was heard on the merits. They had no clue that no Obama ineligibility case was ever heard on the merits, not one judicial subpoena was ever issued and nobody has ever seen his original birth certificate.
Currently we are coordinating efforts to schedule personal meetings of groups of volunteers with Chief US attorneys for criminal matters in each and every district of the US. Mr. Ken Burr and George Lewis will be in charge of this projct. email MR Burr patriot@tx.rr.com
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