Tuesday, January 27, 2009
This was posted on our blog originating from I think the BOPAC blog or something...check it out.
written by larry, January 25, 2009 I am a retired (25) police officer and spent 26 years in the United States Air force as a MSGT in charge of Training for the 482 Security Police Squadron. Was in Vietnam and also served in the Gulf War. For the last year I have been watching this site on a daily basis not believing that Barack Hussein Obama has become our president. I coach a High School softball team and everyone of my players had to produce a birth certificate to be eligible to play through the state. I hate to say this, but we in a total crisis and something will happen if this man is allowed to continue to lead this once proud nation. I have never posted before but know many FBI, Secret Service Agents, CIA and many other Federal Agents who have told me they are not to discuss this issue about Obama or they will be terminated from employment. We all need to take a step back and pray that something will come out on all of these lawsuits. I spoke to the Supreme Court Justice in my state who advised that the US Supreme Court have been ordered to throw out any case that deal with the fraud President elect. May God Help us All (Emphasis added and typos corrected) Obama's covered all the bases. Almost all.
written by larry, January 25, 2009 I am a retired (25) police officer and spent 26 years in the United States Air force as a MSGT in charge of Training for the 482 Security Police Squadron. Was in Vietnam and also served in the Gulf War. For the last year I have been watching this site on a daily basis not believing that Barack Hussein Obama has become our president. I coach a High School softball team and everyone of my players had to produce a birth certificate to be eligible to play through the state. I hate to say this, but we in a total crisis and something will happen if this man is allowed to continue to lead this once proud nation. I have never posted before but know many FBI, Secret Service Agents, CIA and many other Federal Agents who have told me they are not to discuss this issue about Obama or they will be terminated from employment. We all need to take a step back and pray that something will come out on all of these lawsuits. I spoke to the Supreme Court Justice in my state who advised that the US Supreme Court have been ordered to throw out any case that deal with the fraud President elect. May God Help us All (Emphasis added and typos corrected) Obama's covered all the bases. Almost all.
Maybe we should recall senator Sessions from Alabama (here is a letter from him and a suggested answer)
please send him a letter, stating that you have forwarded all the info to him and his letter will be read in 30 radio stations around the country and Defend our Freedoms convention in Dallas TX, April 2-5. The whole state of Al and the whole country should know that it might be time to start a petition to recall Senator Sessions, who after receiving all the information about Obama's lack of Natural born status, is personally attacking concerned citizens, instead of forwarding this info to the Senate Judicial committee, FBI and US attorney's office for criminal investigation of massive fraud committed by Obama, that is still refusing to provide his original birth certificate from Hawaii, after 32 law suits were filed around the country and Obama spent reported $800,000 in attorney's fees to keep this original vault birth certificate sealed. Please find out from the secretary of state, how many signatures do we need in the state of Alabama for a recall campaign. I can post a petition on the blog to sign to recall Sessions. We know that the replacement Senator will be a Republican as well. You will not end up with a liberal democrat, but it will be a Republican with decency and a backbone to demand from Obama production of his original BC, his immigration records, his passports from Indonesia, Kenya and Great Britain and his school and university enrollment records.
Here is the second letter I have received from Senator Jeff Sessions-Alabama. After the first letter, I sent him back a second one stating the facts on Obama's colb vs. birth certificate, and other facts. This letter is a disgrace. Especially the part about "engaging in personality politics". "As you are aware, stories have circulated that call into question President-elect Obama's citizenship. Additionally, various lawsuits have been filed alleging that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States, and therefore is constitutionally ineligible for the office of President. However, in June 2008, President-elect Obama released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate, and Hawaii's Director of the State Department of Health, Chiyome Fukimo, has verified it authenticity.I believe that President-elect Obama has met all of the requirements of citizenship as set forth the U.S. State Department, and therefore is eligible for the office of the presidency. As you may know , on Jan.8, 2009, Congress certified and tallied the Electoral College results that verified President-elect Obama's election as the next president of the Untied States.I firmly believe that the office of the presidency should be held in high regard and the president treated with respect, no matter who occupies the position. Rather than engage in personality politics, Americans should expect Congress and the President to work together to find substantive solutions to the pressing issues that our nation faces today.Thank you again for writing.
Here is the second letter I have received from Senator Jeff Sessions-Alabama. After the first letter, I sent him back a second one stating the facts on Obama's colb vs. birth certificate, and other facts. This letter is a disgrace. Especially the part about "engaging in personality politics". "As you are aware, stories have circulated that call into question President-elect Obama's citizenship. Additionally, various lawsuits have been filed alleging that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States, and therefore is constitutionally ineligible for the office of President. However, in June 2008, President-elect Obama released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate, and Hawaii's Director of the State Department of Health, Chiyome Fukimo, has verified it authenticity.I believe that President-elect Obama has met all of the requirements of citizenship as set forth the U.S. State Department, and therefore is eligible for the office of the presidency. As you may know , on Jan.8, 2009, Congress certified and tallied the Electoral College results that verified President-elect Obama's election as the next president of the Untied States.I firmly believe that the office of the presidency should be held in high regard and the president treated with respect, no matter who occupies the position. Rather than engage in personality politics, Americans should expect Congress and the President to work together to find substantive solutions to the pressing issues that our nation faces today.Thank you again for writing.
Attack on Redress of grievancies
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Our new president promised to hit the ground running and he certainly did. He started by eviscerating the first amendment of our Constitution while protecting the rights of foreigners accused of terrorism against the United States. That, people, is a leftist home run.
His Eminence did not technically attack the first amendment. As a supposed constitutional scholar, Mr. Obama knows that the first amendment states Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for redress of grievances. Thus, as president, the amendment does not actually state his position. We can assume that when he restricted by executive order the right of lobbyists to work in his administration, the executive branch is covered by this annoying little clause in the first amendment.
For some reason, the Democrats have wanted to make believe that there are only four rights protected in the first amendment. They have made "lobbyist" a dirty word -- apparently worse than "Gitmo" to them. Each time a new Democratic Administration comes in it, they blabber about the hideous people who actually speak for the interests of the American people.
Let us just have a short primer on what lobbyists actually do. They represent every interest in the United States from the bowlers of America, to the nurses of America to the soybean growers of America. The average citizen of this country has no ability to have his/her interests presented to a congressman, let alone the President, without having those interests presented by someone who knows the ropes of the Washington D.C. establishment. Anyway you cut it, that is what lobbyists do – petition the Government for redress of grievances.
Why the Democrats have such a problem with this function is unfathomable. Most times elected officials complain about the lobbyists that do not represent their pet interests. But in the case of the Democrats hobnobbing with Big Labor or the Environmental Lobby, that is quite fine by them.
Mr. Obama's proposal is preposterous. He states that he does not want anyone who has lobbied for the last two years to work in that area of the administration. That means if you are a financial expert you can work at the Interior Department, but not the Treasury. The silliness of the idea was displayed by Obama having already broken the rule by nominating William Lynn, a lobbyist for Raytheon, to be deputy secretary of defense.
Mr. Obama then wants to restrict what people can do for a living once they have left his administration. That means if someone leaves the Commerce Dept., they cannot help their successors and must go into something like teaching or becoming a gardener. With these rules, plus the attacks on government employees' character (like what happened to Scooter Libby), it will soon become totally ridiculous for anyone of significant talent to work for the federal government. In effect, what do you need this for – sacrificing your income for multiple years to have your character questioned, and then not being able to benefit from your knowledge once you return to private industry. As much as I love this country, the current state of affairs would not cause me to work under these conditions.
But was there any mention of this attack on the first amendment from the left? Not if you watch their in-house networks: MSNBC or CNN. They skipped right over that to applaud the proposed closing of Gitmo. They could not get enough of the end of that era. What to do with the terrorists still there was easy for these wise heads. Let's stick the terrorists in a flyover state like Kansas. The only real person who ever went there was Truman Capote. Never mind that citizens live right near where these questionable persons are to be dropped.
As the talking heads of MSNBC and CNN applauded the proposed transfer of the terrorists to a place they would never go, the rights of these people to not be tortured was applauded. Most importantly they continued to perpetuate the myth that torture does not work. Whether or not you believe the United States should be allowed to torture highly valued targets, please do not fall for this ridiculous argument that it does not work. It defies logic. Just ask yourself as to why it continues to be used for centuries by governmental and non-governmental entities like the Mafia. The Mafia may do it because they are sadists, but they also do it to gain information. While it may not work on rare occasions, it does work. To continue to state it does not work is just plain silliness. It is another instance where the left believes if they repeat a lie often enough it will become the truth.
Just to review, our new president attempted to gut one of the five rights provided in the first amendment, decided to move dangerous terrorists to American soil and to give them show trials to protect their rights and, most importantly, restricted methods used to gain useful information to be used to help win the war on terror. What an amazing start to what may prove to be a long four years.
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Our new president promised to hit the ground running and he certainly did. He started by eviscerating the first amendment of our Constitution while protecting the rights of foreigners accused of terrorism against the United States. That, people, is a leftist home run.
His Eminence did not technically attack the first amendment. As a supposed constitutional scholar, Mr. Obama knows that the first amendment states Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for redress of grievances. Thus, as president, the amendment does not actually state his position. We can assume that when he restricted by executive order the right of lobbyists to work in his administration, the executive branch is covered by this annoying little clause in the first amendment.
For some reason, the Democrats have wanted to make believe that there are only four rights protected in the first amendment. They have made "lobbyist" a dirty word -- apparently worse than "Gitmo" to them. Each time a new Democratic Administration comes in it, they blabber about the hideous people who actually speak for the interests of the American people.
Let us just have a short primer on what lobbyists actually do. They represent every interest in the United States from the bowlers of America, to the nurses of America to the soybean growers of America. The average citizen of this country has no ability to have his/her interests presented to a congressman, let alone the President, without having those interests presented by someone who knows the ropes of the Washington D.C. establishment. Anyway you cut it, that is what lobbyists do – petition the Government for redress of grievances.
Why the Democrats have such a problem with this function is unfathomable. Most times elected officials complain about the lobbyists that do not represent their pet interests. But in the case of the Democrats hobnobbing with Big Labor or the Environmental Lobby, that is quite fine by them.
Mr. Obama's proposal is preposterous. He states that he does not want anyone who has lobbied for the last two years to work in that area of the administration. That means if you are a financial expert you can work at the Interior Department, but not the Treasury. The silliness of the idea was displayed by Obama having already broken the rule by nominating William Lynn, a lobbyist for Raytheon, to be deputy secretary of defense.
Mr. Obama then wants to restrict what people can do for a living once they have left his administration. That means if someone leaves the Commerce Dept., they cannot help their successors and must go into something like teaching or becoming a gardener. With these rules, plus the attacks on government employees' character (like what happened to Scooter Libby), it will soon become totally ridiculous for anyone of significant talent to work for the federal government. In effect, what do you need this for – sacrificing your income for multiple years to have your character questioned, and then not being able to benefit from your knowledge once you return to private industry. As much as I love this country, the current state of affairs would not cause me to work under these conditions.
But was there any mention of this attack on the first amendment from the left? Not if you watch their in-house networks: MSNBC or CNN. They skipped right over that to applaud the proposed closing of Gitmo. They could not get enough of the end of that era. What to do with the terrorists still there was easy for these wise heads. Let's stick the terrorists in a flyover state like Kansas. The only real person who ever went there was Truman Capote. Never mind that citizens live right near where these questionable persons are to be dropped.
As the talking heads of MSNBC and CNN applauded the proposed transfer of the terrorists to a place they would never go, the rights of these people to not be tortured was applauded. Most importantly they continued to perpetuate the myth that torture does not work. Whether or not you believe the United States should be allowed to torture highly valued targets, please do not fall for this ridiculous argument that it does not work. It defies logic. Just ask yourself as to why it continues to be used for centuries by governmental and non-governmental entities like the Mafia. The Mafia may do it because they are sadists, but they also do it to gain information. While it may not work on rare occasions, it does work. To continue to state it does not work is just plain silliness. It is another instance where the left believes if they repeat a lie often enough it will become the truth.
Just to review, our new president attempted to gut one of the five rights provided in the first amendment, decided to move dangerous terrorists to American soil and to give them show trials to protect their rights and, most importantly, restricted methods used to gain useful information to be used to help win the war on terror. What an amazing start to what may prove to be a long four years.
We are looking for active members of the military from Nashville-Fort Campbell area that want to challenge Obama e-mail dr_taitz@yahoo.com
Proof of Service To US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and FBI Chicago
This was a subpoena for "records to be produced" are described as follows:
"Per Executive Order from January 16, 2009, any and all documents relating to "fitness and determination" in regards to level of character and conduct necessary to perform work for or on behlf of a Federal Agency....continued with "Attachment 3"
Attachment 3
As per Executive Order: Granting Reciprocity on Excepted Service and Federal Contractor Employee Fitness and Reinvestigation Individuals in Positions of Public Trust, see attached, please provide copies of any and all records in regards to level of character and conduct necessary pertaining to Barack H. Obama, a/k/a Barry H. Obama, II a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro. These documents have direct relation to holding a Position of Public Trust.
Documents to include:
- Certified copy of original long vault birth certificate
- Certified copies of any and all passports and passport applications held in the U.S., Indonesia, Great Britain and Kenya.
- Certified copies of any and all school applications, school registrations, grant or student loan applications or funding received for Occidental College, Columbia University, Columbia College, Harvard University
- Certified copies of any U.S. Port of Entry Records
- Certified copies of any documentation pertaining to Social Security. Documentation showing multiple social security numbers being held
- Certified copies of documentation showing a social security number being applied for in the state of Connecticut
- Certified copies of immigration and naturalization records
- Certified copies of any records showing legal name and name change.
Delivered to "L. Dickerson" at 219 s. Dearborn St. Chicago, Illinois (5th Floor) on 1/26/09 at 1:38 pm:

Delivered to "David Habitch" with the FBI's Chicago headquarters office, 2111 West Roosevelt Road, Chicago, Illinois on 1/26/09 at 2:11 pm.
"Per Executive Order from January 16, 2009, any and all documents relating to "fitness and determination" in regards to level of character and conduct necessary to perform work for or on behlf of a Federal Agency....continued with "Attachment 3"
Attachment 3
As per Executive Order: Granting Reciprocity on Excepted Service and Federal Contractor Employee Fitness and Reinvestigation Individuals in Positions of Public Trust, see attached, please provide copies of any and all records in regards to level of character and conduct necessary pertaining to Barack H. Obama, a/k/a Barry H. Obama, II a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro. These documents have direct relation to holding a Position of Public Trust.
Documents to include:
- Certified copy of original long vault birth certificate
- Certified copies of any and all passports and passport applications held in the U.S., Indonesia, Great Britain and Kenya.
- Certified copies of any and all school applications, school registrations, grant or student loan applications or funding received for Occidental College, Columbia University, Columbia College, Harvard University
- Certified copies of any U.S. Port of Entry Records
- Certified copies of any documentation pertaining to Social Security. Documentation showing multiple social security numbers being held
- Certified copies of documentation showing a social security number being applied for in the state of Connecticut
- Certified copies of immigration and naturalization records
- Certified copies of any records showing legal name and name change.
Delivered to "L. Dickerson" at 219 s. Dearborn St. Chicago, Illinois (5th Floor) on 1/26/09 at 1:38 pm:

Delivered to "David Habitch" with the FBI's Chicago headquarters office, 2111 West Roosevelt Road, Chicago, Illinois on 1/26/09 at 2:11 pm.
CEOs of failed banks need to go
I have to say that for once I agree with AP. Below is an article by AP writer Bruce Schreiner of Louisville KY. It is a disgrace, that CEOs of most failed banks and financial institutions were kept on the job. I believe that the main condition in receipt of bailout dollars should've been replacement of failed management. Please, when you meet with your congressmen and senators, demand action in replacement of the CEOs and the rest of the management teams in the financial institutions that received our tax payer dollars. Demand full accountability on the bailout dollars received and demand to see the repayment schedule. When you take out a loan, a mortgage, you are repaying according to a schedule. The lawmakers need to demand from the banks and investment houses repayment schedule. We, the taxpayers are entitled to know, when the first 700 billion will be repayed and at what interest. I am particularly interested in the repayments from AIG that received reported 128 Billion, over a third of the initial 350 billion. I haven't seen BO and co talking about accountability from AIG, while grilling and ridiculing the executives of our automotive industry. Keep in mind that the auto makers got only 14 billion combined, a little more then one tenth of what AIG got. If AIG is not repaying our money, then it is too big for it's own good and for our good and it is time for it to be broken into smaller companies that can be managed, that can be kept profitable, where we can get again some healthy market place competition in the insurance industry instead of a monopoly.
Orly
PS maybe, one of our readers in KY can contact this AP writer, Bruce Schreiner. He sounds like a decent guy and might be willing to keep an open mind and write about BO's illegitimacy for presidency.
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WASHINGTON – They've been bailed out, but not kicked out. At banks that are receiving federal bailout money nearly nine out of every 10 of the most senior executives from 2006 are still on the job, according to an Associated Press analysis of regulatory and company documents.
The AP's review reveals one of the ironies of the bank bailout: The same executives who were at the controls as the banking system nearly collapsed are the ones the government is counting on to help save it.
Even top executives whose banks made such risky loans they imperiled the economy have been largely spared any threat to their jobs, as Washington pumped billions in taxpayer money into the companies. Less fortunate are more than 100,000 bank employees laid off during a two-year stretch when industry unemployment nearly tripled, bank stocks plummeted and credit dried up.
"The same people at the top are still there, the same people who made the decisions causing a lot of our financial crisis," said Rebecca Trevino of Louisville, Ky., a mother of three who was laid off from her job as a Bank of America training coordinator in October. "But that's what tends to happen in leadership. The people at the top, there's always some other place to lay blame."
That workers and managers experience a recession differently is hardly a surprise. What's new is that taxpayers are now shareholders in the nation's bailed-out banks, yet they lack the usual shareholder power to question management decisions or demand house-cleaning in the executive suites.
Wells Fargo & Co., for example, once was among the top lenders of subprime mortgages, or loans to buyers with low credit scores. The company received $25 billion in bailout money and plans layoffs in the coming months. But longtime CEO Richard Kovacevich remains the company's chairman, and the board recently waived its mandatory retirement age for him. John Stumpf, the president since 2005, became chief executive in 2007.
"Our senior leadership team of our CEO and his direct reports have an average tenure of almost a quarter-century with our company," Wells Fargo spokeswoman Julia Tunis Bernard said in a prepared statement. "Our unchanging vision, values and time-tested business model will continue to guide our leaders and our team into the future, and are now more than ever a competitive advantage as our industry evolves."
Under the government's no-strings-attached bailout plan, taxpayers must take it on faith that bank executives will make better decisions this time around, said Jamie Court, president of the California-based group Consumer Watchdog.
"When you deal with the same dogs, you're going to end up with the same fleas," Court said.
The bailout list includes banks of all sizes — from Wall Street giants to small community banks. Some led the rush into subprime mortgages. Others followed.
Many executives on the list are small-town executives who don't earn anything close to Wall Street salaries and who suffered alongside their communities when the economy turned sour. The trouble with the bailout is that nobody in government ever stopped to figure out who caused the avalanche and who simply got buried, said University of Maryland business professor Peter Morici.
"If they got involved in questionable loans and contributed to the speculative bubble, they should be out," Morici said. "These people should be removed and banned from banking, unless we wanted to make them all janitors. But the question then is, 'Can they be trusted wandering around the offices at night?'"
Barack Obama as president-elect and some in Congress have suggested auto company executives should lose their jobs as part of the bailout of that industry. But there has been no such suggestion about banks. Congress twice authorized $350 billion in bank bailout money. Both times, lawmakers set few conditions on the money.
The president of the American Bankers Association, Ed Yingling, said he understands taxpayers are frustrated. But most banks had nothing to do with the subprime crisis, he said. As for whether taxpayers should demand management changes, he said that was never a condition of the bailout plan the government crafted.
"Are we going to have the American people saying, 'We're invested in you, so now we should look at your margins, look at every loan you make, look at your lending policies?' No. That was never discussed," Yingling said. "You can't micromanage banks."
In some cases the market held executives accountable for the mortgage crisis. When banks such as Washington Mutual, Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers were bought up, many executives lost their jobs. When the government took over mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, directors and executives were fired.
But the financial bailout has resulted in no such consequences. AP's review of the more than 200 publicly traded banks that received federal bailout money found that about 87 percent of the top three executives in 2006 — typically the chief executive, operating and financial officers — still remain on the job.
And that number is deceptively low, since those few executives who left their jobs often did so because they retired — or died. Several stayed on as directors or in consulting positions.
Even banks that were involved in risky lending saw little turnover:
_JPMorgan Chase & Co., which invested billions in subprime mortgages, has the same leadership team, led by CEO James Dimon. Dimon made about $28 million in 2007. The company is shedding about 10 percent of its investment bank staff.
_Cleveland-based KeyCorp, which ran subprime lending subsidiary Champion Mortgage until late 2006, received $2.5 billion in bailout money. Its chairman and CEO, Henry Meyer, has been in charge since 2001. Jeffrey Weeden, the company's chief financial officer, and Thomas Stevens, the administrative officer who oversaw the risk review group, have been on the job for years.
KeyCorp has been cutting jobs over the past two years, including 200 announced this month at a Tacoma, Wash., call center. A company spokesman said the bank was too busy preparing its earnings report to answer questions about whether taxpayers should have confidence in the company's management.
"The on-the-record comment I would make is that we declined to comment even though we'd like to, because we don't have time," spokesman Bill Murschel said.
_Capital One Financial Corp., one of the nation's biggest credit-card providers, dove into the risky mortgage business when it bought GreenPoint Mortgage in 2006. GreenPoint made exotic loans to borrowers without verifying income or credit scores, then sold those loans to investors.
A year later, Capital One shuttered GreenPoint, cutting 1,900 jobs. CEO Richard Fairbank and his top executives were not among them. The company received about $3.5 billion in bailout money.
In Louisville, Trevino and her family are living mostly off credit cards and savings while she interviews for jobs. Her husband is in commercial real estate, which has slowed significantly. After what she described as a bare-bones Christmas, she said she looked over her household finances and realized they might lose their home.
"That's when I was just, 'Lord, I know you have a plan. Can you just show me? I'd really like to know,'" she said.
Trevino said she isn't upset that her old boss, Bank of America CEO Ken Lewis, is still on the job. There are others in the industry with greater responsibility for the crisis, she said.
Trevino agreed the federal government needed to rescue the banks but said there should have been some oversight.
"It is surprising that leadership can make decisions that lead to financial ruin for so many," she said, "and then get bailed out for it."
___
Associated Press writer Bruce Schreiner in Louisville, Ky
Orly
PS maybe, one of our readers in KY can contact this AP writer, Bruce Schreiner. He sounds like a decent guy and might be willing to keep an open mind and write about BO's illegitimacy for presidency.
Yahoo! Bookmarks Print By MATT APUZZO and DANIEL WAGNER, Associated Press Writers Matt Apuzzo And Daniel Wagner, Associated Press Writers – 2 hrs 12 mins ago AP – In this April 3, 2008, file photo, JP Morgan Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon testifies …
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WASHINGTON – They've been bailed out, but not kicked out. At banks that are receiving federal bailout money nearly nine out of every 10 of the most senior executives from 2006 are still on the job, according to an Associated Press analysis of regulatory and company documents.
The AP's review reveals one of the ironies of the bank bailout: The same executives who were at the controls as the banking system nearly collapsed are the ones the government is counting on to help save it.
Even top executives whose banks made such risky loans they imperiled the economy have been largely spared any threat to their jobs, as Washington pumped billions in taxpayer money into the companies. Less fortunate are more than 100,000 bank employees laid off during a two-year stretch when industry unemployment nearly tripled, bank stocks plummeted and credit dried up.
"The same people at the top are still there, the same people who made the decisions causing a lot of our financial crisis," said Rebecca Trevino of Louisville, Ky., a mother of three who was laid off from her job as a Bank of America training coordinator in October. "But that's what tends to happen in leadership. The people at the top, there's always some other place to lay blame."
That workers and managers experience a recession differently is hardly a surprise. What's new is that taxpayers are now shareholders in the nation's bailed-out banks, yet they lack the usual shareholder power to question management decisions or demand house-cleaning in the executive suites.
Wells Fargo & Co., for example, once was among the top lenders of subprime mortgages, or loans to buyers with low credit scores. The company received $25 billion in bailout money and plans layoffs in the coming months. But longtime CEO Richard Kovacevich remains the company's chairman, and the board recently waived its mandatory retirement age for him. John Stumpf, the president since 2005, became chief executive in 2007.
"Our senior leadership team of our CEO and his direct reports have an average tenure of almost a quarter-century with our company," Wells Fargo spokeswoman Julia Tunis Bernard said in a prepared statement. "Our unchanging vision, values and time-tested business model will continue to guide our leaders and our team into the future, and are now more than ever a competitive advantage as our industry evolves."
Under the government's no-strings-attached bailout plan, taxpayers must take it on faith that bank executives will make better decisions this time around, said Jamie Court, president of the California-based group Consumer Watchdog.
"When you deal with the same dogs, you're going to end up with the same fleas," Court said.
The bailout list includes banks of all sizes — from Wall Street giants to small community banks. Some led the rush into subprime mortgages. Others followed.
Many executives on the list are small-town executives who don't earn anything close to Wall Street salaries and who suffered alongside their communities when the economy turned sour. The trouble with the bailout is that nobody in government ever stopped to figure out who caused the avalanche and who simply got buried, said University of Maryland business professor Peter Morici.
"If they got involved in questionable loans and contributed to the speculative bubble, they should be out," Morici said. "These people should be removed and banned from banking, unless we wanted to make them all janitors. But the question then is, 'Can they be trusted wandering around the offices at night?'"
Barack Obama as president-elect and some in Congress have suggested auto company executives should lose their jobs as part of the bailout of that industry. But there has been no such suggestion about banks. Congress twice authorized $350 billion in bank bailout money. Both times, lawmakers set few conditions on the money.
The president of the American Bankers Association, Ed Yingling, said he understands taxpayers are frustrated. But most banks had nothing to do with the subprime crisis, he said. As for whether taxpayers should demand management changes, he said that was never a condition of the bailout plan the government crafted.
"Are we going to have the American people saying, 'We're invested in you, so now we should look at your margins, look at every loan you make, look at your lending policies?' No. That was never discussed," Yingling said. "You can't micromanage banks."
In some cases the market held executives accountable for the mortgage crisis. When banks such as Washington Mutual, Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers were bought up, many executives lost their jobs. When the government took over mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, directors and executives were fired.
But the financial bailout has resulted in no such consequences. AP's review of the more than 200 publicly traded banks that received federal bailout money found that about 87 percent of the top three executives in 2006 — typically the chief executive, operating and financial officers — still remain on the job.
And that number is deceptively low, since those few executives who left their jobs often did so because they retired — or died. Several stayed on as directors or in consulting positions.
Even banks that were involved in risky lending saw little turnover:
_JPMorgan Chase & Co., which invested billions in subprime mortgages, has the same leadership team, led by CEO James Dimon. Dimon made about $28 million in 2007. The company is shedding about 10 percent of its investment bank staff.
_Cleveland-based KeyCorp, which ran subprime lending subsidiary Champion Mortgage until late 2006, received $2.5 billion in bailout money. Its chairman and CEO, Henry Meyer, has been in charge since 2001. Jeffrey Weeden, the company's chief financial officer, and Thomas Stevens, the administrative officer who oversaw the risk review group, have been on the job for years.
KeyCorp has been cutting jobs over the past two years, including 200 announced this month at a Tacoma, Wash., call center. A company spokesman said the bank was too busy preparing its earnings report to answer questions about whether taxpayers should have confidence in the company's management.
"The on-the-record comment I would make is that we declined to comment even though we'd like to, because we don't have time," spokesman Bill Murschel said.
_Capital One Financial Corp., one of the nation's biggest credit-card providers, dove into the risky mortgage business when it bought GreenPoint Mortgage in 2006. GreenPoint made exotic loans to borrowers without verifying income or credit scores, then sold those loans to investors.
A year later, Capital One shuttered GreenPoint, cutting 1,900 jobs. CEO Richard Fairbank and his top executives were not among them. The company received about $3.5 billion in bailout money.
In Louisville, Trevino and her family are living mostly off credit cards and savings while she interviews for jobs. Her husband is in commercial real estate, which has slowed significantly. After what she described as a bare-bones Christmas, she said she looked over her household finances and realized they might lose their home.
"That's when I was just, 'Lord, I know you have a plan. Can you just show me? I'd really like to know,'" she said.
Trevino said she isn't upset that her old boss, Bank of America CEO Ken Lewis, is still on the job. There are others in the industry with greater responsibility for the crisis, she said.
Trevino agreed the federal government needed to rescue the banks but said there should have been some oversight.
"It is surprising that leadership can make decisions that lead to financial ruin for so many," she said, "and then get bailed out for it."
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Associated Press writer Bruce Schreiner in Louisville, Ky
from a reader "stitching along"
In a interview last night with Dubai-based In Al-Arabiya Network BHO said, “I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries.”
He has only admitted to living in Indonesia as a child, what are the other Muslim countries he has lived in?
If you don't expose him, I think he will stick his foot into his own mouth. He will screw up sometime.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090127/pl_politico/18016
He spoke Arabic with someone at the inaugural lunch before Old Teddy had his seizure. He can remember and speak a language from when he was a kid.
I'm sorry that I told you before that his illegal alien aunt lived in NY, it was Boston. I read yesterday that she attended his inauguration and a ball, gown and all escorted by her attorney. They stayed at a expensive hotel in DC. I wonder who is paying for all of that since she was previously living in public housing illegally. She is supposed to be living in the Cleveland area now, but it is secret where.
He has only admitted to living in Indonesia as a child, what are the other Muslim countries he has lived in?
If you don't expose him, I think he will stick his foot into his own mouth. He will screw up sometime.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090127/pl_politico/18016
He spoke Arabic with someone at the inaugural lunch before Old Teddy had his seizure. He can remember and speak a language from when he was a kid.
I'm sorry that I told you before that his illegal alien aunt lived in NY, it was Boston. I read yesterday that she attended his inauguration and a ball, gown and all escorted by her attorney. They stayed at a expensive hotel in DC. I wonder who is paying for all of that since she was previously living in public housing illegally. She is supposed to be living in the Cleveland area now, but it is secret where.
US attorney's offices for you to visit and forward info on BO
Please, forward to me records: when did you call for appointment, when was the meeting, who did you talk to, what follow up was done.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/offices/index.html
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Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse
1000 SW Third Avenue, Suite 600
Portland, OR 97204-2902
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701 High Street (541)465-6771 (541)465-6582
Eugene, OR 97401
310 West 6th St (541)776-3564 (541)776-3583
Medford, OR 97501
PENNSYLVANIA PHONE FAX
Eastern District
Laurie Magid, USA (215)861-8200 (215)861-8609
615 Chestnut Street, Ste. 1250
Philadelphia, PA 19106
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Middle District
Martin C. Carlson, USA (570)348-2800 (570)348-2816
P.O. Box 309
Scranton, PA 18501-0309
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Suite 220, Federal Building (717)221-4482 (717)221-4582
228 Walnut Street
Harrisburg , PA 17108-1754
Herman T. Schneebeli Federal Building (570)326-1935 (570)326-7916
240 West Third Street, Suite 316
Williamsport, PA 17701
Western District
Mary Beth Buchanan, USA* (412)644-3500 (412)644-4549
U. S. Post Office & Courthouse
700 Grant Street
Suite 4000
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
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Federal Courthouse (814)452-2906 (814)455-6951
Room A330
17 South Park Row
Erie, PA 16501-1158
Suite 200, Penn Traffic Building (814)533-4547 (814)533-4545
319 Washington Street
Johnstown, PA 15901
PUERTO RICO PHONE FAX
Rosa E. Rodriguez-Velez , USA (787)766-5656 (787)766-6219
Torre Chardon , Suite 1201
350 Carlos Chardon Avenue
San Juan, PR 00918
RHODE ISLAND PHONE FAX
Robert Clark Corrente, USA* (401)709-5000 (401)709-5001
Fleet Center
50 Kennedy Plaza, 8th Floor
Providence, RI 02903
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SOUTH CAROLINA PHONE FAX
William Walter Wilkins, III, USA* (803)929-3000 (803)254-2912
First Union Building
1441 Main Street, Suite 500
Columbia, SC 29201
Web Site
PO Box 978 (843)727-4381 (843)727-4443
Charleston, SC 29402
PO Box 1567 (843)665-6688 (843)678-8809
Florence, SC 29503
PO Box 10067 (864)282-2100 (864)233-3158
Greenville, SC 29603
SOUTH DAKOTA PHONE FAX
Martin J. Jackley, USA* (605)330-4400 (605)330-4410
Post Office Box 3303
Sioux Falls, SD 57101-3303
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337 Federal Bldg & US Courthouse (605)224-5402 (605)224-8305
225 S. Pierre St.
Pierre, SD 57501
201 Federal Bldg & US Courthouse (605)342-7822 (605)342-1108
515 Ninth Street
Rapid City, SD 57701
303 Post Office and, U.S. Courthouse (605)226-7264 (605)226-7266
Aberdeen, SD 57401
TENNESSEE PHONE FAX
Eastern District
James R. Dedrick, USA* (865)545-4167 (865)545-4176
800 Market Street, Suite 211
Knoxville, TN 37902
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1110 Market Street, Suite 301 (423)752-5140 (423)752-5150
Chattanooga, TN 37402
220 West Depot Street (423)639-6759 (423)639-6451
Greeneville, TN 37743
208 Sunset Drive, Suite 509 (423)282-1889 (423)282-0849
Johnson City, TN 37604
Middle District
Edward Meacham Yarbrough, USA* (615)736-5151 (615)736-5323
110 Ninth Avenue, South, Suite A961
Nashville, TN 37203
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817 S. Garden Street, Room 205 (931)388-6030
Columbia, TN 37083
Post Office & Courthouse (931)528-2709
9 East Broad St.
Cookeville, TN 38503
Western District
Lawrence J. Laurenzi , USA (901)544-4231 (901)544-4230
800 Clifford Davis Federal Office Building
Memphis, TN 38103
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109 S. Highland, Suite 300 (731)422-6220 (731)422-6668
Jackson, TN 38301
TEXAS PHONE FAX
Eastern District
Rebecca A. Gregory, USA* (409)839-2538 (409)839-2550
350 Magnolia Avenue, Suite 150
Beaumont, TX 77701-2237
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Bank of America Bldg (936)639-4003 (936)639-4033
415 S. 1st Street
Lufkin, TX 75901
One Grand Centre (903)868-9454 (903)892-2792
1800 Teague Drive, Suite 500
Sherman, TX 75090
110 North College, Suite 700 (903)590-1400 (903)590-1439
Tyler, TX 75702
101 East Park Boulevard, Suite 500 (972)509-1201 (972)509-1209
Plano, TX 75704
500 State Line Ave. N., Suite 402 (903)794-9481 (903)792-5164
Texarkana, TX 77501
Northern District
James T. Jacks, USA (214)659-8600 (214)767-2898
1100 Commerce Street, Third Floor
Dallas, TX 75242-1699
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Amarillo Nat'l Plaza Two (806)324-2356 (806)324-2399
500 South Taylor St.
Amarillo, TX 79101-2446
801 Cherry Street, Unit 4 (817)252-5200 (817)978-3094
Burnett Plaza, Ste. 1700
Ft. Worth, TX 76102-6897
1205 Texas Ave., Ste. 700 (806)472-7351 (806)472-7394
U.S. Federal Building
Lubbock, TX 79401-4002
Southern District
Tim Johnson, USA (713)567-9000 (713)718-3300
P.O. Box 61129
Houston, TX 77208
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U.S. Courthouse (956)548-2554 (956)548-2711
600 East Harrison, Suite 201
Brownsville, TX 71406
One Shoreline Plaza South Tower, (361)888-3111 (361)888-3200
800 N Shoreline Blvd., Suite 500
Corpus Christi, TX 78401
P.O. Box 1179 (956)723-6523 (956)726-2266
1100 Matamoros, Suite 200
Laredo, TX 78042
Bentsen Tower (956)618-8010 (956)618-8009
1701 West Hwy 83, Suite 600
McAllen, TX 73341
P.O. Box 2685 (361)576-9988 (361)579-6820
312 South Main, 3rd Floor
Victoria, TX 77902-2685
Western District
Johnny K. Sutton, USA* (210)384-7100 (210)384-7105
601 N.W. Loop 410, Suite 600
San Antonio, TX 78216
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c/o DEA, 801 North 2nd Street (915)837-3421 (915)837-7485
Alpine, TX 79830
816 Congress Avenue, Frost Bank Plaza (512)916-5858 (512)916-5854
Austin, TX 78701
111 East Broadway, Rm. A306, 3rd Floor (830)703-2025 (830)703-3741
U.S. Courthouse
Del Rio, TX 78840
700 East San Antonio Ave., Suite 200 (915)534-6884 (915)534-6024
El Paso, TX 79901
400 W. Illinois Street, Suite 1200 (915)686-4110 (915)686-4131
Midland, TX 79702
106 West 4th St. (915)445-4343 (915)445-4343
U.S. Courthouse
Pecos, TX 79772 (Unstaffed)
800 Franklin, Suite 280 (254)750-1580 (254)750-1599
Waco, TX 76701
UTAH PHONE FAX
Brett L. Tolman, USA* (801)524-5682 (801)524-6924
185 South State Street, Suite 300
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
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VERMONT PHONE FAX
Thomas D. Anderson, USA* (802)951-6725 (802)951-6540
P.O. Box 570
Burlington, VT 05402
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P.O. Box 10 (802)773-0231 (802)773-0214
Rutland, VT 05702
VIRGIN ISLANDS PHONE FAX
Paul A. Murphy, USA (340)774-5757 (340)776-3474
Federal Building and, U. S. Courthouse, Room 260
5500 Veterans Drive
St. Thomas, VI 00802-6424
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1108 King Street, Suite 201, Christiansted (340)773-3920 (340)773-1407
St. Croix, VI 00820-4951
VIRGINIA PHONE FAX
Eastern District
Dana Boente, USA (703)299-3700 (703)299-2584
2100 Jamieson Ave
Alexandria, VA 22314
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World Trade Center (757)441-6331 (757)441-6689
101 W. Main Street, Suite 8000
Norfolk, VA 23510
Main Street Centre (804)819-5400 (804)771-2316
600 E. Main Street, Suite 1800
Richmond, VA 23219
Fountain Plaza Three (757)591-4000 (757)591-0866
Suite 300
721 Lakefront Commons
Newport News, Virginia 23606
Western District
Julia Campbell Dudley, USA (540)857-2250 (540)857-2614
310 First Street, S.W. Room 906
Roanoke, VA 24011
Post Office Box 1709
Roanoke, VA 24008
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180 W. Main Street (276)628-4161 (276)628-7399
Abingdon, VA 24210
255 West Main Street, Room 104 (434)293-4283 (434)293-4910
Charlottesville, VA 22901
WASHINGTON PHONE FAX
Eastern District
James A. McDevitt, USA* (509)353-2767 (509)353-2766
P.O. Box 1494
Spokane, WA 99210-1494
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Post Office Box 4065 (509)454-4425 (509)454-4435
Yakima, WA 98901
Western District
Jeffrey C. Sullivan, USA (206)553-7970 (206)553-0882
700 Stewart Street Suite 5220
Seattle, WA 98101-1271
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1201 Pacific Avenue, Suite 700 (253)428-3800 (253)428-3826
Tacoma, WA 98402
WEST VIRGINIA PHONE FAX
Northern District
Sharon L. Potter, USA* (304)234-0100 (304)234-0110
P.O. Box 591
Wheeling, WV 26003-0011
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Federal Center (304)623-7030 (304)623-7031
320 West Pike Street, Suite 300
Clarksburg, WV 26301-2710
Post Office Box 190 (304)636-1739 (304)636-1967
Elkins, WV 26241-0190
U. S. Courthouse and Post Office Building (304)262-0590 (304)262-0591
217 West King Street, Suite 400
Martinsburg, WV 25401-3286
Southern District
Charles T. Miller, USA (304)345-2200 (304)347-7074
Post Office Box 1713
Charleston, WV 25326
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Post Office Box 1239 (304)529-5799 (304)529-5545
Huntington WV 25714
WISCONSIN PHONE FAX
Eastern District
Michelle L. Jacobs, USA (414)297-1700 (414)297-1738
530 Federal Building
517 East Wisconsin Avenue
Milwaukee, WI 53202
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Western District
Erik C. Peterson, USA* (608)264-5158 (608)264-5172
P.O. Box 1585
Madison, WI 53701-1585
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WYOMING PHONE FAX
Kelly H. Rankin, USA* (307)772-2124 (307)772-2123
P. O. Box 668
Cheyenne, WY 82003-0668
Dick Cheney Federal Building (307)261-5434 (307)261-5471
100 East B Street, Suite 2211
Casper, WY 82601
P.O. Box 449 (307)332-8195 (307)332-7104
Lander, WY 82520
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/offices/index.html
ALABAMA PHONE FAX
Middle District
Leura Garrett Canary, USA* (334)223-7280 (334)223-7560
131 Clayton Street
Montgomery, AL 36104
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701 701 Avenue "A" (334)490-0909 (334)490-0909
Opelika, AL 36801 (Unstaffed)
100 W. Troy Street (334)792-3583
Dothan, AL 36301 (Unstaffed)
Northern District
Alice H. Martin, USA* (205)244-2001 (205)244-2171
1801 Fourth Ave., North
Birmingham, AL 35203-2101
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400 Meridian Street, Suite 304 (256)534-8285 (256)539-3270
Huntsville, AL 35801
Southern District
Deborah J. Rhodes, USA* (251)441-5845 (251)441-5277
Riverview Plaza
63 S. Royal Street Suite 600
Mobile, AL 36602
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ALASKA PHONE FAX
Nelson P. Cohen, USA (907)271-5071 (907)271-3224
Federal Bldg. & U.S. Courthouse
222 West 7th Ave., #9, Rm 253
Anchorage, AK 99513-7567
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Federal Bldg. & U.S. Courthouse (907)456-0245 (907)456-0309
101 12th Ave., Rm. 310, Box 2
Fairbanks, AK 99701
ARIZONA PHONE FAX
Diane J. Humetewa, USA* (602)514-7500 (602)514-7693
Two Renaissance Square
40 North Central Ave. Suite 1200
Phoenix, AZ 85004-4408
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405 W. Congress, Suite 4800 (520)620-7300 (520)620-7320
Tucson, AZ 85701-5040
123 N. San Francisco Street, Suite 204
Flagstaff, AZ 86001
ARKANSAS PHONE FAX
Eastern District
Jane Duke, USA 501-340-2600 (501)340-2728
Post Office Box 1229
Little Rock, AR 72203
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Western District
Deborah J. Groom, USA (479)783-5125 (479)785-2442
414 Parker Street
Fort Smith, AR 72901
CALIFORNIA PHONE FAX
Central District
Thomas P. O’Brien, USA* (213)894-2434 (213)894-0141
1200 U.S. Courthouse
312 North Spring Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012
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411 West Fourth Street, Suite 8000 (714)338-3500 (714)338-3708
Santa Ana, CA 92701-4599
3880 Lemon Street, Suite 210 (951)276-6210 (951)276-6202
Riverside, CA 92501
Eastern District
Lawrence G. Brown, USA (916)554-2700 (916)554-2900
501 I Street, Suite 10-100
Sacramento, CA 95814
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2500 Tulare Street, Suite 4401 (559)497-4000 (559)497-4099
Fresno, CA 93721
Northern District
Joseph P. Russoniello, USA* (415)436-7200 (415)436-7234
450 Golden Gate Avenue, Box 36055
San Francisco, CA 94102
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1301 Clay Street, Suite 340S (510)637-3680 (510)637-3724
Oakland, CA 94612
150 Almaden Boulevard, Suite 900 (408)535-5061 (408)535-5066
San Jose, CA 95113
Southern District
Karen P. Hewitt, USA (619)557-5610 (619)557-5782
880 Front Street, Room 6293
San Diego, CA 92101
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321 S. Waterman Ave., Room 204 (760)370-0893 (760)370-0894
El Centro, CA 92243
COLORADO PHONE FAX
David M. Gaouette, USA (303)454-0100 (303)454-0409
1225 Seventeenth Street, Suite 700
Seventeenth Street Plaza
Denver, CO 80202
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103 Sheppard Drive, No. 215 (970)247-1514 (970)247-8619
Durango, CO 81301
402 Rood Avenue, Suite 220 (970)257-7113 (970)248-3630
Grand Junction, CO 81501
CONNECTICUT PHONE FAX
Nora Dannehy, USA (203)821-3700 (203)773-5376
Connecticut Financial Center
157 Church Street Floor 23
New Haven, CT 06510
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915 Lafayette Blvd. (203)696-3000 (203)579-5550
Bridgeport, CT 06604
450 Main Street (860)947-1101 (860)240-3291
Hartford, CT 06103
DELAWARE PHONE FAX
David C. Weiss, USA (302)573-6277 (302)573-6220
Nemours Building, P.O. Box 2046
Wilmington, DE 19899-2046
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DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA PHONE FAX
Jeffrey A. Taylor, USA (202)514-7566 (202)307-3569
Judiciary Center Building
555 Fourth Street, NW
Washington, DC 20530
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FLORIDA PHONE FAX
Middle District
A. Brian Albritton, USA* (813)274-6000 (813)274-6246
400 North Tampa Street, Suite 3200
Tampa, FL 33602
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300 N. Hogan Street, Suite 700 (904)301-6300 (904)232-2620
Jacksonville, FL 32202-4270
2110 First Street, Suite 3-137 (239)461-2200 (239)461-2219
Fort Myers, FL 33901
108 North Magnolia Avenue (352)629-0053 (352)671-6743
Suite 701
Ocala, Florida 34475
Mailing Address: 207 North West 2nd Street, Room 118
Ocala, Fl 34475
501 West Church Street, Suite 300 (407)648-7500 (407)648-7643
Orlando, FL 32805
Northern District
Thomas F. Kirwin, USA (850)942-8430 (850)942-9577
111 N. Adams Street, 4th Floor
Tallahassee, FL 32301
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300 East University Avenue, Suite 310 (352)378-0996 (352)371-1912
Gainesville, FL 32601
30 West Government Street (850)785-3495 (850)763-3415
Panama City, FL 32401
21 E. Garden Street (850)444-4000 (850)432-7763
Pensacola, FL 32502
Southern District
R. Alexander Acosta, USA* (305)961-9000 (305)530-7087
99 NE 4th Street
Miami, FL 33132
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500 East Broward Blvd., Seventh Floor (954)356-7255 (954)356-7336
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33394
505 S. 2nd St., Suite 200 (772)466-0899 (772)466-1020
Ft. Pierce, FL 34950
500 Australian Ave., Fourth Floor (561)820-8711 (561)820-8777
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
GEORGIA PHONE FAX
Middle District
Frank Maxwell Wood, USA* (478)752-3511 (478)621-2604
P.O. Box 1702
Macon, GA 31202-1702 (shipping)
300 Mulberry Street, Suite 400
Macon, GA 31201 (office)
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P.O. Box 366 (912)430-7754 (912)430-7766
Albany, GA 31702
P.O. Box 2568 (706)649-7700 (706)649-7667
Columbus, GA 31902-2568
Northern District
David E. Nahmias, USA* (404)581-6000 (404)581-6181
600 U.S. Courthouse
75 Spring Street, S.W.
Atlanta, GA 30303-3309
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Southern District
Edmund A. Booth, Jr., USA* (912)652-4422 (912)652-4388
P. O. Box 8970
Savannah, GA 31412
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P.O. Box 2017 (706)724-0517 (706)724-7728
Augusta, GA 30903
GUAM & NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS PHONE FAX
Leonardo M. Rapadas, USA* (671)472-7332 (671)472-7334
Sirena Plaza, 108 Hernan Cortez, Suite 500
Hagatna, GU 96910
P.O. Box 500377 (670)236-2980 (670)236-2945
Saipan, GU 96950-0377
HAWAII PHONE FAX
Edward H. Kubo, Jr., USA* (808)541-2850 (808)541-2958
Room 6-100, PJKK Federal Building
300 Ala Moana Boulevard
Honolulu, HI 96850
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IDAHO PHONE FAX
Thomas E. Moss, USA* (208)334-1211 (208)334-1413
Washington Group Plaza
800 Park Boulevard, Suite 600
Boise, ID 83712-9903
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205 North 4th Street, Room 304/305 (208)667-6568 (208)667-0814
Coeur d" Alene, ID 83814
801 E. Sherman, Room 192 (208)478-4166 (208)478-4175
Pocatello, ID 83201
ILLINOIS PHONE FAX
Central District
Rodger A. Heaton, USA* (217)492-4450 (217)492-4512
318 S. Sixth St.
Springfield, IL 62701
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One Technology Plaza (309)671-7050 (309)671-7259
211 Fulton Street
Peoria, IL 61602
1830 Second Avenue, Suite 320 (309)793-5884 (309)793-5895
Rock Island, IL 61602
201 S. Vine Street, Suite 226 (217)373-5875 (217)373-5891
Urbana, IL 61801
Northern District
Patrick Fitzgerald, USA* (312)353-5300 (312)353-2067
219 S. Dearborn Street, Fifth Floor
Chicago, IL 60604
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308 West State, Room 300 (815)987-4444 (815)987-4236
Rockford, IL 61101
Southern District
A. Courtney Cox, USA (618)628-3700 (618)628-3730
Nine Executive Drive
Fairview Heights, IL 62208
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402 W. Main Street (618)439-3808 (618)439-2401
Benton, IL 62812
INDIANA PHONE FAX
Northern District
David A. Capp , USA (219)937-5500 (219)852-2770
5400 Federal Plaza
Hammond, IN 46320
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3128 Federal Building (260)422-2595 (260)426-1616
1300 South Harrison Street
Fort Wayne, IN 46802
204 S. Main Street, Room MO-1 (574)236-8287 (574)236-8155
South Bend, IN 46601
Southern District
Timothy M. Morrison, USA (317)226-6333 (317)226-6125
10 West Market Street, Suite 2100
Indianapolis, IN 46204
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IOWA PHONE FAX
Northern District
Matt M. Dummermuth, USA (319)363-6333 (319)363-1990
401 1st ST SE, Suite 400
Cedar Rapids, IA 52401-4950
Web Site
600 4th Street, Suite 670 (712)255-6011 (712)258-1821
Sioux City, IA 51101
Southern District
Matthew G. Whitaker, USA* (515)473-9300 (515)284-6288
U.S. Courthouse Annex
110 East Court Avenue
Suite 286
Des Moines, IA 50309
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U.S. Courthouse (563)449-5432 (563)449-5433
131 East 4th Street, Suite 310
Davenport, IA 52801
KANSAS PHONE FAX
Marietta Parker, USA (316)269-6481 (316)269-6484
1200 Epic Center
301 N. Main
Wichita, KS 67202
500 State Street, Suite 360 (913)551-6730 (913)551-6541
Kansas City, KS 66101
290 Federal Bldg. (785)295-2850 (785)295-2853
444 SE Quincy Street
Topeka, KS 66683
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KENTUCKY PHONE FAX
Eastern District
James A. Zerhusen, USA (859)233-2661 (859)233-2666
260 West Vine Street, Suite 300
Lexington, KY 40507-1671
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Post Office Box 72 (859)655-3200 (859)655-3212
Covington, KY 41012-0072
601 Meyers Baker Road, Second Floor (606)864-5523 (606)864-3590
London, KY 40741
Western District
David L. Huber, USA* (502)582-5911 (502)582-5097
Bank of Louisville Bldg.
510 West Broadway
Louisville, KY 40202
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LOUISIANA PHONE FAX
Eastern District
Jim Letten, USA* (504)680-3000 (504)589-3594
500 Poydras Street
Room B210
New Orleans, LA 70130
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Middle District
David R. Dugas, USA* (225)389-0443 (225)389-0561
Russell B. Long Federal Building
777 Florida Street Suite 208
Baton Rouge, LA 70801
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Western District
Donald W. Washington, USA* (318)676-3600 (318)676-3641
300 Fannin Street, Suite 3201
Shreveport, LA 71101-3068
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800 Lafayette Street, Suite 2200 (337)262-6618 (337)262-6680
Lafayette, LA 70501-6832
MAINE PHONE FAX
Paula Silsby, USA (207)780-3257 (207)780-3304
100 Middle Street Plaza
East Tower Sixth Floor
Portland, ME 04101-4100
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202 Harlow Street, Room 111 (207)945-0373 (207)945-0319
Bangor, ME 04401
MARYLAND PHONE FAX
Rod J. Rosenstein, USA* (410)209-4800 (410)962-0122
36 S. Charles Street, 4th Floor
Baltimore, MD 21201
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U.S. Courthouse Suite 400 (301)344-4433 (301)344-4518
Greenbelt, MD 20770
MASSACHUSETTS PHONE FAX
Michael J. Sullivan, USA* (617)748-3100 (617)748-3953
1 Courthouse Way
John Joseph Moakley Courthouse
Boston, MA 02210
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United States Courthouse (413)785-0235 (413)785-0394
300 State Street, Suite 230
Springfield, MA 01105-2926
Donohue Federal Building (508)793-0450 (508)793-0446
595 Main Street, Room 206
Worcester, MA 01608
MICHIGAN PHONE FAX
Eastern District
Terrence Berg, USA (313)226-9100 (313)226-4609
211 W. Fort Street, Suite 2001
Detroit, MI 48226
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101 First St., Suite 200 (989)895-5712 (989)895-5790
Bay City, MI 48708
210 Federal Building (810)766-5177 (810)766-5427
600 Church Street
Flint, MI 48502
Western District
Donald A. Davis, USA (616)456-2404 (616)456-2408
P.O. Box 208
Grand Rapids, MI 49501-0208
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Republic Bank, 2nd Fl. (906)226-2500 (906)226-3700
1930 U.S. 41 West
Marquette, MI 49855
315 W. Allegan, Room 252 (517)377-1577 (517)377-1698
Lansing, MI 48933
MINNESOTA PHONE FAX
Frank J. Magill, Jr., USA (612)664-5600 (612)664-5787
600 U. S. Courthouse
300 South Fourth Street
Minneapolis, MN 55415
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266 U. S. Courthouse (651) 848-1950 (651)848-1943
316 North Robert Street
St. Paul, MN 55101
Not a staffed office
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Attorney General
I got this question in an e-mail (see below). I would agree that Vice President Cheney should've asked for objections and each congressmen should've objected, but I believe that strategically we are better off concentrating on one effort- exposing BO, as what he is, an usurper, and removing him out of the White House. With that in mind, I think that strategically you should concentrate on demanding that Att. Generals of each state investigate BO and fraud committed by him. You should schedule personal appointments, bring documents. For your convenience the necessary documents are posted on the page of Defend our Freedoms, on the right side. You can download the links and forward the documents to the attorney generals. Keep record of you visits, forward this record to me, I will post it, so we will have them all accountable. Let's hope and pray that we will find at least one attorney general that is not corrupt.
jublationantcptin@juno.com wrote:
Hello,
Thank you, again.
Can the Attorneys General also be asked to investigate this situation?
After the electoral vote count/certification by Congress, the presiding person (V.P. Cheney, according to one source I just read) is by law required to ask for any objections. If one Senator and one Representative place an objection to the winner of the vote count, Congress must investigate the legitimacy of the reasons behind the objection (in this case, the eligibility of the candidate to hold the office of pesidency.). This same source stated that no one objected because V.P. Cheney did not call for or allow any objections.
If that is the case, then the Congressional confirmation of Mr. O is invalidated by ANOTHER reason. Plus, Mr. Cheney broke the law.
Can we ask the Attorney Generals to also investigate this possible miscarriage of justice against the American people? We need to find out if ANYONE did or would have objected but was illegally prevented from doing so, or if their objections were ignored.
These leaders have too long gotten away with breaking our laws with no consequences. The consequences all fall on us, the people. I'm for changing THAT pattern right now. I pray the Attorneys General will be true to their oaths and carry out justice for us all.
Thank you for passing on these requests. I appreciate your efforts.
jublationantcptin@juno.com wrote:
Hello,
Thank you, again.
Can the Attorneys General also be asked to investigate this situation?
After the electoral vote count/certification by Congress, the presiding person (V.P. Cheney, according to one source I just read) is by law required to ask for any objections. If one Senator and one Representative place an objection to the winner of the vote count, Congress must investigate the legitimacy of the reasons behind the objection (in this case, the eligibility of the candidate to hold the office of pesidency.). This same source stated that no one objected because V.P. Cheney did not call for or allow any objections.
If that is the case, then the Congressional confirmation of Mr. O is invalidated by ANOTHER reason. Plus, Mr. Cheney broke the law.
Can we ask the Attorney Generals to also investigate this possible miscarriage of justice against the American people? We need to find out if ANYONE did or would have objected but was illegally prevented from doing so, or if their objections were ignored.
These leaders have too long gotten away with breaking our laws with no consequences. The consequences all fall on us, the people. I'm for changing THAT pattern right now. I pray the Attorneys General will be true to their oaths and carry out justice for us all.
Thank you for passing on these requests. I appreciate your efforts.
From Bill Grant MA
at some point in the future orly, i want you as attorney general of the usa. you put most americans to shame for their apathy, indifference and ignorance. rest assured that you have millions of your fellow-citizens behind you and remember to not be outcome based, but remain as you are, i.e., principles based. what's right will prevail. bill grantsouth boston, massachusetts
Transparency in Government-please respond to Mr. Obama-Soetoro
Mr. Obama-Barry Soetoro has issued this memorandum on transparency in government. Please respond to him and all the heads of departments and agencies with attachment of this order and executive order from Bush and demand from this fraud his original birth certificate, passports from Indonesia and Kenya, his immigration records and school/university registrations. You may also want to ask him to resign due to the fact that he failed to provide any records verifying that he is a natural Born citizen, you may want to ask those departments to investigate and start the indictment process. (thank you Mr. Hagen for forwarding this to me)
MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIESSUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.Government should be transparent. Transparency promotes accountability and provides information for citizens about what their Government is doing. Information maintained by the Federal Government is a national asset. My Administration will take appropriate action, consistent with law and policy, to disclose information rapidly in forms that the public can readily find and use. Executive departments and agencies should harness new technologies to put information about their operations and decisions online and readily available to the public. Executive departments and agencies should also solicit public feedback to identify information of greatest use to the public.Government should be participatory. Public engagement enhances the Government's effectiveness and improves the quality of its decisions. Knowledge is widely dispersed in society, and public officials benefit from having access to that dispersed knowledge. Executive departments and agencies should offer Americans increased opportunities to participate in policymaking and to provide their Government with the benefits of their collective expertise and information. Executive departments and agencies should also solicit public input on how we can increase and improve opportunities for public participation in Government.Government should be collaborative. Collaboration actively engages Americans in the work of their Government. Executive departments and agencies should use innovative tools, methods, and systems to cooperate among themselves, across all levels of Government, and with nonprofit organizations, businesses, and individuals in the private sector. Executive departments and agencies should solicit public feedback to assess and improve their level of collaboration and to identify new opportunities for cooperation.I direct the Chief Technology Officer, in coordination with the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Administrator of General Services, to coordinate the development by appropriate executive departments and agencies, within 120 days, of recommendations for an Open Government Directive, to be issued by the Director of OMB, that instructs executive departments and agencies to take specific actions implementing the principles set forth in this memorandum. The independent agencies should comply with the Open Government Directive. This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. This memorandum shall be published in the Federal Register. BARACK OBAMA
The Whitehouse
MON, JANUARY 26, 12:27 PM EST
MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIESSUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.Government should be transparent. Transparency promotes accountability and provides information for citizens about what their Government is doing. Information maintained by the Federal Government is a national asset. My Administration will take appropriate action, consistent with law and policy, to disclose information rapidly in forms that the public can readily find and use. Executive departments and agencies should harness new technologies to put information about their operations and decisions online and readily available to the public. Executive departments and agencies should also solicit public feedback to identify information of greatest use to the public.Government should be participatory. Public engagement enhances the Government's effectiveness and improves the quality of its decisions. Knowledge is widely dispersed in society, and public officials benefit from having access to that dispersed knowledge. Executive departments and agencies should offer Americans increased opportunities to participate in policymaking and to provide their Government with the benefits of their collective expertise and information. Executive departments and agencies should also solicit public input on how we can increase and improve opportunities for public participation in Government.Government should be collaborative. Collaboration actively engages Americans in the work of their Government. Executive departments and agencies should use innovative tools, methods, and systems to cooperate among themselves, across all levels of Government, and with nonprofit organizations, businesses, and individuals in the private sector. Executive departments and agencies should solicit public feedback to assess and improve their level of collaboration and to identify new opportunities for cooperation.I direct the Chief Technology Officer, in coordination with the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Administrator of General Services, to coordinate the development by appropriate executive departments and agencies, within 120 days, of recommendations for an Open Government Directive, to be issued by the Director of OMB, that instructs executive departments and agencies to take specific actions implementing the principles set forth in this memorandum. The independent agencies should comply with the Open Government Directive. This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. This memorandum shall be published in the Federal Register. BARACK OBAMA
The Whitehouse
MON, JANUARY 26, 12:27 PM EST
from a reader Michele Pecora
Dear Joe, Chris and Michael:
I listened to replays of Michael Medved's tirade about those of us who are doing our part to expose Barry Soetero/Barack Obama.
The callers were far more articulate than Medved. The passport discussion was so demonstrative of Medved's poor debate skills. He changed the subject at least three times while talking over the caller before weaseling out to a break.
On another occasion, as soon as an attorney introduced himself, Medved tossed out the "funds" card in his first sentence. Does he really think he is fooling anyone with that cheap defensive tactic? He has no basis for his rude banter and has displayed an amazing degree of ignorance and foolish amateur legal interpretations. I would laugh if I weren't so appalled.
Medved deserves to be sued for slander, but I notice that Dr. Orly Taitz graciously responded with a firm and informative letter. He is lucky that she took the high road in the face of his sleazy comments. If she were anything but dedicated to the cause, she wouldn't bother with Medved. She'd settle for suing him if it were about money.
Medved's sarcasim falls on its face. Is he trying to entertain?
I expect for him to act like an adult and offer the attorneys who are donating hours of their time to save America from this Usurper time to clear the air waves that he polluted.
Otherwise, he deserves to be sued to bankruptcy, for all I care. I would not have heard of him if it hadn't been for the outrage of true conservatives. And, by the way, I'm not making any money on this email.
Sincerely,
Michele Pecora, MBA, CPA
I listened to replays of Michael Medved's tirade about those of us who are doing our part to expose Barry Soetero/Barack Obama.
The callers were far more articulate than Medved. The passport discussion was so demonstrative of Medved's poor debate skills. He changed the subject at least three times while talking over the caller before weaseling out to a break.
On another occasion, as soon as an attorney introduced himself, Medved tossed out the "funds" card in his first sentence. Does he really think he is fooling anyone with that cheap defensive tactic? He has no basis for his rude banter and has displayed an amazing degree of ignorance and foolish amateur legal interpretations. I would laugh if I weren't so appalled.
Medved deserves to be sued for slander, but I notice that Dr. Orly Taitz graciously responded with a firm and informative letter. He is lucky that she took the high road in the face of his sleazy comments. If she were anything but dedicated to the cause, she wouldn't bother with Medved. She'd settle for suing him if it were about money.
Medved's sarcasim falls on its face. Is he trying to entertain?
I expect for him to act like an adult and offer the attorneys who are donating hours of their time to save America from this Usurper time to clear the air waves that he polluted.
Otherwise, he deserves to be sued to bankruptcy, for all I care. I would not have heard of him if it hadn't been for the outrage of true conservatives. And, by the way, I'm not making any money on this email.
Sincerely,
Michele Pecora, MBA, CPA
Open letter to Chief Justice Roberts from LtCol Earl Graef
Orly , Please at your discretion post this letter.
Memorandum and Open Letter
From: LtCol. David A. Earl-Graef
To: Chief Justice John G. Roberts
Date: 26 Jan 2006
Sir,
I can not express in words the disappointment I feel regarding the recent actions of the Court to deny those of us in the military important answers to questions regarding our Constitutional duty as clearly stated in our Oath of Office. While these actions are not an injury such as one might sustain on the field of battle, they constitute an egregious injury to the faith I have placed in the court. While I can not say that of its nature the injury is mortal, it is not without morbidity! While I can not say that I shall succumb to it, the actions of the Court have deeply wounded the spirit of this American Soldier. I am left brokenhearted and conflicted in this moment to the point of tears.
I had earlier written to you and asked that you consider the Oath of Office that I took and every American Soldier takes and asked that you honor and respect its sacred vows in your actions. I ask you now in your heart; have you done this? Have you placed aside the political concerns of this decision? Have you given honor to the fighting men and women who, in the face of death, carry the standard of freedom? Have you given honor to the fallen Soldiers who have no voice; those who are now across the river of eternity and whose bodies lay entombed across the river from where you sit, in the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery? Have you given honor to the Soldiers whose names are not inscribed on any piece of stone or mortar or recorded on any parchment or paper; the names American Soldiers that are known only to God?
Make no mistake, I am keenly aware of the burden placed upon you and do not in any way envy your responsibility or the responsibility of the court in this situation. The dire consequences facing our Nation in either circumstance around your decision are no less and perhaps more than has ever fallen before us as a Nation in our entire history.
Although in my darkest moments, when shadows of doubt encircle me, I remain steadfast to my Oath. Although I can not suppress a feeling of betrayal, I can not knowingly betray my country. I again plea to the Court to release me from this yoke of uncertainty that is weighing me down. Renew my faith in Justice and give me the direction I need to continue to serve. Above all I pray that you not let those Soldiers who have paid and are yet to pay the ultimate sacrifice defending the Constitution to have done so in vain.
Sincerely,
LtCol David Earl-Graef USAFR MC
Memorandum and Open Letter
From: LtCol. David A. Earl-Graef
To: Chief Justice John G. Roberts
Date: 26 Jan 2006
Sir,
I can not express in words the disappointment I feel regarding the recent actions of the Court to deny those of us in the military important answers to questions regarding our Constitutional duty as clearly stated in our Oath of Office. While these actions are not an injury such as one might sustain on the field of battle, they constitute an egregious injury to the faith I have placed in the court. While I can not say that of its nature the injury is mortal, it is not without morbidity! While I can not say that I shall succumb to it, the actions of the Court have deeply wounded the spirit of this American Soldier. I am left brokenhearted and conflicted in this moment to the point of tears.
I had earlier written to you and asked that you consider the Oath of Office that I took and every American Soldier takes and asked that you honor and respect its sacred vows in your actions. I ask you now in your heart; have you done this? Have you placed aside the political concerns of this decision? Have you given honor to the fighting men and women who, in the face of death, carry the standard of freedom? Have you given honor to the fallen Soldiers who have no voice; those who are now across the river of eternity and whose bodies lay entombed across the river from where you sit, in the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery? Have you given honor to the Soldiers whose names are not inscribed on any piece of stone or mortar or recorded on any parchment or paper; the names American Soldiers that are known only to God?
Make no mistake, I am keenly aware of the burden placed upon you and do not in any way envy your responsibility or the responsibility of the court in this situation. The dire consequences facing our Nation in either circumstance around your decision are no less and perhaps more than has ever fallen before us as a Nation in our entire history.
Although in my darkest moments, when shadows of doubt encircle me, I remain steadfast to my Oath. Although I can not suppress a feeling of betrayal, I can not knowingly betray my country. I again plea to the Court to release me from this yoke of uncertainty that is weighing me down. Renew my faith in Justice and give me the direction I need to continue to serve. Above all I pray that you not let those Soldiers who have paid and are yet to pay the ultimate sacrifice defending the Constitution to have done so in vain.
Sincerely,
LtCol David Earl-Graef USAFR MC
Urgent-need affidavits for motion to compel for the Supreme Court, Senate and Congressional Judicial committee hearings and FBI and US attorney
For immediate press release
01.26.09.
Dear fellow Americans and Patriots,
as you probably know, in my case Lightfoot v Bowen I filed a petition for emergency stay and asked it to be treated as a writ of certiorari based on Bush v Gore 2000 precedent. The Supreme Court has logged this petition as an application for stay pending filing a writ of certiorari. Since they denied the emergency petition today, it gives me an opportunity to file immediately the actual Writ of Certiorari and it will be done within a few days.
However, a number of things have transpired lately.
First, an exparte private closed door meeting between 8 out of 9 Justices of the Supreme Court (Justice Samuel Alito was not present) with Mr. Barry Soetoro-Barack Hussein Obama. I will file a motion to the Chief Jastice to compel the records of this private meeting, that was held only a few days before my case was supposed to be heard, where the plaintiffs state that Mr. Soetoro-Obama is illegitimate for presidency due to the fact that his father was a foreign subject and there is no evidence that Mr. Obama was really born in Hawaii, since the state of Hawaii statute 338 allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to obtain Hawaiian certification of live birth and such certification can be obtained based on an affidavit of one relative only. In spite of 32 legal actions filed around the country, Mr. Soetoro-Obama refused to provide his original birth certificate that is sealed in Hawaii, no hospital in Hawaii could find any records of Mr. Obama ever being born there and affidavits were given by a number of parties in Kenya, stating that he was born in Kenya. We believe that Mr. Obama has spent over $800,000 on numerous attorneys to keep his original birth certificate sealed, because the original vault birth certificate does not provide any corroborating evidence from any hospital about him being born there.
Additionally, Mr. Obama has immigrated to Indonesia as a child with his mother and step-father Lolo Soetoro and his school records from Indonesia show his legal name to be Barry Soetoro, citizen of Indonesia. Due to the fact that Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, Mr. Soetoro -Obama's parents had to relinquish his US citizenship in order to obtain his Indonesian Citizenship. There is ample evidence that Mr. Soetoro-Obama has travelled on his Indonesian passport up to the time he became US Senator, whereby he reaffirmed his Indonesian citizenship as an adult.
The swearing of Mr. Obama is null and void due to the fact that he was sworn in on a name that is not legally his name and he is a foreign subject from birth and now and never qualified as a Natural Born US Citizen
On Wednesday, January the 21st, when the Supreme Court reopened for business after inauguration, somebody deleted from the external docket all information about my case. Millions of people around the country and around the world watched that docket. A number of concerned parties have called the Supreme Court and got no explanation. Other cases were on the docket. Finally, information about my case was re-entered on the docket. I will be demanding from the Chief Justice John Roberts an immediate full investigation, as to how the information about a case of National and World importance, dealing with Mr Soetoro- Obama's illegitimacy for Presidency, disappeared from the docket of the Supreme Court. Incidentally an article about me and the cases I am handling, has disappeared from the Wikipedia. A copy of this letter will be forwarded to the Congressional and Senatorial Judicial committees for full investigation and hearing as well as FBI and US attorney's offices.
I would ask all of the citizens that observed this disappearing and reappearing of information on the docket of SCOTUS to write affidavits to that extend. Please go to the nearest UPS store. They usually have notary public on the premises. Have your signature notarised and have the affidavit scanned and e-mailed to me.
Watergate investigation started with a small hotel braking. Obamagate Congressional and Senatorial investigation will start with this breaking into the computer system of the Supreme Court of the United States and illegal deletion of all the information about my case from the external public docket.
Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
dr_taitz@yahoo.com
drorly.blogspot.com
01.26.09.
Dear fellow Americans and Patriots,
as you probably know, in my case Lightfoot v Bowen I filed a petition for emergency stay and asked it to be treated as a writ of certiorari based on Bush v Gore 2000 precedent. The Supreme Court has logged this petition as an application for stay pending filing a writ of certiorari. Since they denied the emergency petition today, it gives me an opportunity to file immediately the actual Writ of Certiorari and it will be done within a few days.
However, a number of things have transpired lately.
First, an exparte private closed door meeting between 8 out of 9 Justices of the Supreme Court (Justice Samuel Alito was not present) with Mr. Barry Soetoro-Barack Hussein Obama. I will file a motion to the Chief Jastice to compel the records of this private meeting, that was held only a few days before my case was supposed to be heard, where the plaintiffs state that Mr. Soetoro-Obama is illegitimate for presidency due to the fact that his father was a foreign subject and there is no evidence that Mr. Obama was really born in Hawaii, since the state of Hawaii statute 338 allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to obtain Hawaiian certification of live birth and such certification can be obtained based on an affidavit of one relative only. In spite of 32 legal actions filed around the country, Mr. Soetoro-Obama refused to provide his original birth certificate that is sealed in Hawaii, no hospital in Hawaii could find any records of Mr. Obama ever being born there and affidavits were given by a number of parties in Kenya, stating that he was born in Kenya. We believe that Mr. Obama has spent over $800,000 on numerous attorneys to keep his original birth certificate sealed, because the original vault birth certificate does not provide any corroborating evidence from any hospital about him being born there.
Additionally, Mr. Obama has immigrated to Indonesia as a child with his mother and step-father Lolo Soetoro and his school records from Indonesia show his legal name to be Barry Soetoro, citizen of Indonesia. Due to the fact that Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, Mr. Soetoro -Obama's parents had to relinquish his US citizenship in order to obtain his Indonesian Citizenship. There is ample evidence that Mr. Soetoro-Obama has travelled on his Indonesian passport up to the time he became US Senator, whereby he reaffirmed his Indonesian citizenship as an adult.
The swearing of Mr. Obama is null and void due to the fact that he was sworn in on a name that is not legally his name and he is a foreign subject from birth and now and never qualified as a Natural Born US Citizen
On Wednesday, January the 21st, when the Supreme Court reopened for business after inauguration, somebody deleted from the external docket all information about my case. Millions of people around the country and around the world watched that docket. A number of concerned parties have called the Supreme Court and got no explanation. Other cases were on the docket. Finally, information about my case was re-entered on the docket. I will be demanding from the Chief Justice John Roberts an immediate full investigation, as to how the information about a case of National and World importance, dealing with Mr Soetoro- Obama's illegitimacy for Presidency, disappeared from the docket of the Supreme Court. Incidentally an article about me and the cases I am handling, has disappeared from the Wikipedia. A copy of this letter will be forwarded to the Congressional and Senatorial Judicial committees for full investigation and hearing as well as FBI and US attorney's offices.
I would ask all of the citizens that observed this disappearing and reappearing of information on the docket of SCOTUS to write affidavits to that extend. Please go to the nearest UPS store. They usually have notary public on the premises. Have your signature notarised and have the affidavit scanned and e-mailed to me.
Watergate investigation started with a small hotel braking. Obamagate Congressional and Senatorial investigation will start with this breaking into the computer system of the Supreme Court of the United States and illegal deletion of all the information about my case from the external public docket.
Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
dr_taitz@yahoo.com
drorly.blogspot.com
New Subpoenas
New subpoenas that have been issued to Obama's senior staff from the Honorable Patrick Fitzgerald Office:
David Axelrod
Valerie Jarrett
Rahm Emanuel
Tony Rezko
Also served:
Patricia Blagojevich
Friends of Blagojevich, campaign committee
Citizens for Blagojevich, former committee
Robert Blagojevich
Christopher Kelly
Alonzo Monk
Milan Petrovic
John Wyma
Paul Rosenfeld
J.B. Pritzker
Gery Chico
Doug Scofield
Scofield Communications
Service Employees International Union
Tom Balanoff
Change to Win, activist group
Sam Zell, owner of the Chicago Tribune
Nils Larsen
The Chicago Tribune
The Tribune Co.
Michael Vondra
Gerald Krozel
John Johnston, president of Balmoral Park racetrack
Fred Yang
Garin Hart Yang Research Group
William Knapp
Squire, Knapp & Dunn, Knapp’s firm
Doug Sosnick, political consultant
David Axelrod
Valerie Jarrett
Rahm Emanuel
Tony Rezko
Also served:
Patricia Blagojevich
Friends of Blagojevich, campaign committee
Citizens for Blagojevich, former committee
Robert Blagojevich
Christopher Kelly
Alonzo Monk
Milan Petrovic
John Wyma
Paul Rosenfeld
J.B. Pritzker
Gery Chico
Doug Scofield
Scofield Communications
Service Employees International Union
Tom Balanoff
Change to Win, activist group
Sam Zell, owner of the Chicago Tribune
Nils Larsen
The Chicago Tribune
The Tribune Co.
Michael Vondra
Gerald Krozel
John Johnston, president of Balmoral Park racetrack
Fred Yang
Garin Hart Yang Research Group
William Knapp
Squire, Knapp & Dunn, Knapp’s firm
Doug Sosnick, political consultant
Michael Medved Audio Clips - We The People USA

Michael Medved Audio Clips - We The People USA:
Jean Kulig-Tucker, Founder of WeThePeopleUSA.ning.com wrote: "Listen to Audio Clips of the Jan 19, 2009 Michael Medved Show on my Audio Playlist located on the left-hand side of my Profile page to hear Medved talking trash about Phillip Berg, Dr. Orly Taitz and anyone else that wants to see Barack Hussain Obama's Actual Long-Form Vault Copy Birth Certificate.
It looks like (pic below) Medved is in for a shock when he actually sees BO's Birth Certificate! Oh....and don't forget to read about Orly's Request for A Retraction from Michael Medved and Salem Communications." Read more.
Note: Be sure to read Orly's Retraction Request Michael Medved.
Jean Kulig-Tucker continues by writing:
PATRIOTS, PLEASE POST THIS and PASS THIS ON TO YOUR CONTACTS. ORLY's LETTERS are BELOW.
Let's All help Orly by emailing Joe Davis, joeD@salem.cc, President of Salem Communications, Chris Henderson, chrish@salem.cc Salem Communication's General Counsel and Michael Medved at michael@michaelmedved.com or using Medved's Online Form at http://www.michaelmedved.com/askmike.
CALL Salem Communications, aka, Salem Web Networks www.salemwebnetwork.com at 805-987-0400 and the producers at the Michael Medved Show at 1-800-955-1776.
Let's tell Salem Communications and Michael Medved that we are going to BOYCOTT Salem Communications and all of their affiliate radio stations listed here http://townhall.com/SiteMap.aspx. Lets let them know that we will unsubscribe to www.Townhall.com, www.TownhallMagazine.com and BOYCOTT of their advertisors too, if they DO NOT issue a retraction and provide Orly with the appropriate airtime on Michael Medved's show or on another broadcast which will allow Orly to defend herself against Medved's slanderous, defamatory and completely ill-informed comments regarding her character and the merits of her legal actions.
Act Now!! Bombard them with Emails and Phone Calls!
Obama - Son of Kenya Soil
http://www.bunge.go.ke/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/5.11.08A.pdf
Parliament of the Republic of Kenya
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT [Kenya] Wednesday, 5th November, 2008
The House met at 9.00 a.m.
-Snip-
House Adjourn To Discuss Election Of Mr. Barrack Obama
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour. I, therefore, seek leave of the House that we adjourn to discuss the issue.
Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order! Order!
Ms. Odhiambo, Standing Order No.20 says:- "Any hon. Member may at any time rise in his place and seek leave to move the adjournment of the House for purposes of discussing a definite matter of urgent national importance."
This means national "Kenyan" importance. The election of Senator Barrack Obama-
-- An hon. Member: It is President Obama! Mr. Deputy Speaker: president-elect has not been sworn-in yet. The election of President-elect Obama is of utmost national importance to the United States of America. Ms. Odhiambo, you are a lawyer. You had better be very careful where you transgress between watching your own sovereignty and what can be interpreted in some quarters as some form of treason. We appreciate and respect him. We are happy and we were looking forward to his election. It is not a matter of urgent definite national importance to Kenya.
In any case, whereas the ruling from the Chair would not have been any different, you are supposed to approach the Chair at least two hours in advance and give a notice of that information. Nonetheless, let us hold our horses. Let the excitement not make us look like American citizens. We are citizens of the sovereign Republic of Kenya.
-snip-
"The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs (Mr. Musyoka): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while thanking you for that Communication from the Chair, I want to join the rest of the world and, indeed, all of us - and it is understandable that the rest of African Continent and the whole world is celebrating a dawn of a new era---
As we congratulate the American people and more, specifically, Senator Barrack Obama who is now President-elect, it is important to reflect on the journey that he has travelled so far. When countries get their foreign policy right, a lot of hope can ensue. What I have in mind is the famous Kennedy airlifts of the 1960s when many Kenyans were, due the friendship with the then Government and the late Tom Joseph Mboya, given the opportunity to travel to the United States of America as a result of [The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs]
which we now have an African American of Kenyan origin being President-elect. This is momentous. At 4.00 o'clock this morning, Senator Barrack Obama called me at midnight and told me: "Mr. Vice President, could you make sure you sort out this problem?" I want to assure him that the problem has since been sorted out. (Several hon. Members stood up)
Mr. Deputy Speaker: You are all out of order! Next Order! Order! Hon. Members,"
-end snip-
Parliament of the Republic of Kenya
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT [Kenya] Wednesday, 5th November, 2008
The House met at 9.00 a.m.
-Snip-
House Adjourn To Discuss Election Of Mr. Barrack Obama
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour. I, therefore, seek leave of the House that we adjourn to discuss the issue.
Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order! Order!
Ms. Odhiambo, Standing Order No.20 says:- "Any hon. Member may at any time rise in his place and seek leave to move the adjournment of the House for purposes of discussing a definite matter of urgent national importance."
This means national "Kenyan" importance. The election of Senator Barrack Obama-
-- An hon. Member: It is President Obama! Mr. Deputy Speaker: president-elect has not been sworn-in yet. The election of President-elect Obama is of utmost national importance to the United States of America. Ms. Odhiambo, you are a lawyer. You had better be very careful where you transgress between watching your own sovereignty and what can be interpreted in some quarters as some form of treason. We appreciate and respect him. We are happy and we were looking forward to his election. It is not a matter of urgent definite national importance to Kenya.
In any case, whereas the ruling from the Chair would not have been any different, you are supposed to approach the Chair at least two hours in advance and give a notice of that information. Nonetheless, let us hold our horses. Let the excitement not make us look like American citizens. We are citizens of the sovereign Republic of Kenya.
-snip-
"The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs (Mr. Musyoka): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while thanking you for that Communication from the Chair, I want to join the rest of the world and, indeed, all of us - and it is understandable that the rest of African Continent and the whole world is celebrating a dawn of a new era---
As we congratulate the American people and more, specifically, Senator Barrack Obama who is now President-elect, it is important to reflect on the journey that he has travelled so far. When countries get their foreign policy right, a lot of hope can ensue. What I have in mind is the famous Kennedy airlifts of the 1960s when many Kenyans were, due the friendship with the then Government and the late Tom Joseph Mboya, given the opportunity to travel to the United States of America as a result of [The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs]
which we now have an African American of Kenyan origin being President-elect. This is momentous. At 4.00 o'clock this morning, Senator Barrack Obama called me at midnight and told me: "Mr. Vice President, could you make sure you sort out this problem?" I want to assure him that the problem has since been sorted out. (Several hon. Members stood up)
Mr. Deputy Speaker: You are all out of order! Next Order! Order! Hon. Members,"
-end snip-
AP reporting on Obama's aunt, from reader Robert
this article was written by AP writer Joanne Viviano in OH. Commentary below is from one of the readers. My comment to this: why isn't AP doing it's job for once and not demanding from ICE under FOIA all of Obama's immigration records, his mother's travel in 1960-1961, his passport records. It was reported by former ICE agent that Obama came to US on foreign exchange student visa. Excerpts of Ca Assembly show Soetoro from Indonesia receiving foreign exchange student aid. Maybe AP should stop drinking Obama cool aid for a minute or two and start serious investigative reporting about him
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_aunt
...hiding in the open.
My understanding of the law is she cannot get asylum or a stay of deportation after an order has been issued to deport her. Now, she must get a Presidential pardon to stay.Lets see her birth certificate, lying documents to get government housing, medical care and welfare checks, voting records, fake social security number, passport, entry documents into the US-lets see it all!!!!Documents! We ain't got no STINKN documents!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_aunt
...hiding in the open.
My understanding of the law is she cannot get asylum or a stay of deportation after an order has been issued to deport her. Now, she must get a Presidential pardon to stay.Lets see her birth certificate, lying documents to get government housing, medical care and welfare checks, voting records, fake social security number, passport, entry documents into the US-lets see it all!!!!Documents! We ain't got no STINKN documents!
Sunday, January 25, 2009
Important
Obama paid his employees with debit cards. Those are empty now. I need a few empty debit cards. You might be able to buy them on e-bay as memorabilia
From reader Carol
We the People have what the tyrants and usurpers want....our money buying their products which they can use to control us.
If we identify the money flow and companies related to the people who are criminally destroying our Constitution, we can have great influence.
For example, some people behind Obama:
Oprah.........stop buying any products related to Oprah's empire
Pelosi...........multimillionaire from Starkist Tuna
Soros
Bush
Gore
Reid
Media control
General Electric has manipulated media, what products are they involved in?
Fox News controlled by shares owned by Saudi Arabia
If we had a detailed product list that was tied to supporting Obama, we could make an impact where it would hurt.
What auto companies supported Obama?
If somebody could organize us into pro-Constitution shopping behaviors, we could vote with our pocketbooks.
Gas/oil companies.
I noticed in some stock I owned (not much) that ING, a huge megabillionare company out of Holland stock value dropped 80%.
Procter and Gamble, of Cincinnati Ohio, dropped 7%.
It looks prettyobvious that ING was either an inside job, to affect the world market, or was targeted by some entity, trying to dismantle its power. I do not know world economics enough to know the cause, but I do know there is a big difference between 7% and 80%, and there is pretty obvious financial war going on.
I hope that somehow we can learn which products are in Oprah's empire and the Soros financial empire, and take away their control with a boycott of their products.
God bless America,
Carol
If we identify the money flow and companies related to the people who are criminally destroying our Constitution, we can have great influence.
For example, some people behind Obama:
Oprah.........stop buying any products related to Oprah's empire
Pelosi...........multimillionaire from Starkist Tuna
Soros
Bush
Gore
Reid
Media control
General Electric has manipulated media, what products are they involved in?
Fox News controlled by shares owned by Saudi Arabia
If we had a detailed product list that was tied to supporting Obama, we could make an impact where it would hurt.
What auto companies supported Obama?
If somebody could organize us into pro-Constitution shopping behaviors, we could vote with our pocketbooks.
Gas/oil companies.
I noticed in some stock I owned (not much) that ING, a huge megabillionare company out of Holland stock value dropped 80%.
Procter and Gamble, of Cincinnati Ohio, dropped 7%.
It looks prettyobvious that ING was either an inside job, to affect the world market, or was targeted by some entity, trying to dismantle its power. I do not know world economics enough to know the cause, but I do know there is a big difference between 7% and 80%, and there is pretty obvious financial war going on.
I hope that somehow we can learn which products are in Oprah's empire and the Soros financial empire, and take away their control with a boycott of their products.
God bless America,
Carol
Facebook | Tea Party: February 1, 2009

Facebook | Tea Party: February 1, 2009: "It is time for We The People to send a strong message to Washington DC - no more. No more loading our children and grandchildren with debt. No more bailing out speculators and bankers who made bets they knew were unsafe at the time. No more bailing out people who came to Congress to demand the removal of leverage limits, got what they asked for, then blew themselves up with the very leverage they demanded to be able to use.
There is a new movement starting called - The 2009 Tea Party - the purpose is to let Congress know just how we feel about their performances. On Feb. 1st we ask that every American send to their Senators and Congressmen a postcard, e-mail, etc. with a picture of a tea bag and this greeting:
2009 Tea Party
We're Mad as Hell
and we're not going to take it
ANYMORE
Welcome to the Revolution
We are determined to get as many people out there to voice their opinions. It worked all those many years ago for our patriots in Boston..Let the Revolution begin. If you are a member of Facebook, a group page has been set up called 2009 Tea Party. It has some good info. Spread the word!!
Read more.
From a group of readers
Good luck!
Like I said, stop funding them.
"Ever so often, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Unalienable Rights wrote:
Well when the workd gets out, and it will, that this CURRENT government structure is OUR government , not anyone elses government.
It is OUR government's duty to protect RIGHTs. Privacy is arguably a RIGHT and the "illegal alien POTUS" has the right, too.
So where is the answer to the problem we have now?
The answer MAY not be in the courts but in the VOTERS' hands. LAW, recall of representatives, etc.
AND! The lack of 'standing' issue is a serious LEGAL problem. Cuz...one CANNOT compel the government to OBEY the laws IF one has NOT been injured ie: lacks standing.
So weigh the legal matters based on the red text above and you will SOON know that the Obama issue is OUR issue because he violated OUR law/s.
Just organize by calling and recruiting volunteers who are probably at the Grange, Eagles, Moose, Vet orgs. and on and on and on.
Get a laptop and do a Power Point presentation about Oblammmma etc at the organizations' meetings.
Put a sign on your vehicle saying we INAUGURATED an "ILLEGAL ALIEN" and have a website on the sign too, so the sign readers can find out what's going on with the "ILLEGAL ALIEN".
*****************************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Gary Mach wrote:
It is the difference between DeFacto and DeJure. Until we stop answering the wrong questions and start functioning in the correct realm programs will come and go as distractions and the machine keeps rolling along!
Their is a thing in court called traversing. It is used to keep an aponent off point. The idea is to get your aponent to traverse to an off point argument. If your aponent is kept off point you win. We can whine all we want about issues and not make any progress due to being off point. Most of (if not all) the programes keep the public off point. If they keep us asking the wrong questions they don't have give us the right answers,
The DeFacto Government is not the true Govt. and it's funding needs to end. That is some thing the people can do.
As to success and/or demise of the programs and bills you metioned they are all debatable. They are all off point.
What ever deal that goes down has a new bigger and badder one waiting in the wings. Voting the bums out is something the people can do to. But they don't. Why?
The people need to be reminded that nothing protects them as well as a Republican form of Govt. I don't mean being a Republican as to what they have become is some where left of center.
I think most will not get it untill it all colapses. Hopefully the people will do the right thing then and not just ask for more Govt.
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Unalienable Rights wrote:
Maybe focusing on what can be done instead of what can't be done would be the way to go wouldn't it ?
What about MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) it worked didn't it ? AND! What about 'BRADY" and the BRADY BILL ...it worked didn't it ? AND! what about the DUBAI PORTS DEAL it went down ...didn't it ? AND! what about the AMNESTY BILL ...it went down didn't it ?
AND! if a group is focused on REMOVING Oblammmma ...it will work too; no doubt about it...and it won't be an easy task to accomplish either.
See the link below and also the links in the SIGNATURE area of this email.
Resource to Combine progress Data of various Obama Elimination Groups:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7bd2qt_43f3qddwdk
**************************************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gary Mach wrote:
Until the voters figure out that their Senators, and Representatives aren't on their side and vote the bums out (If the votes really count, paper ballots might be in order here) nothing will change! We can recruit all we want but we still end up with people that don't know that Democrats and Republicans are almost identical in their core and will keep the machine rolling down the same path it has been on for the last 80+ years! If we don't break out of the 2 party system (it is really 1 party) we are doomed for sure! If the Congress did the right thing and did not abdicate their responsibility (because they have been paid off) we would not be in this mess. The Congress is a reflection of the dumbed down populace right now, they all wan't and have their hand out. Wellfair top to bottom! Fauxbamma only got in because the represenatives of the people didn't do their job. It starts there. No one is stealing our rights, the people have failed to hold their feet to the fire at the lower levels and retain our States rights! The population as a whole don't get it because they have been indoctrinated in the public school system and have no grasp on their responsibility to do their part. They want someone else to do the dirty work. The first thing people should be doing is cut off the funding and pay off ALL of their debt! With the debt paid off the house of cards colapses. Our monitary system is debt based, no debt no system, it is that easy! See the links in the signature below, and this link.
Resource to Combine progress Data of various Obama Elimination Groups:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7bd2qt_43f3qddwdk
***************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Unalienable Rights wrote:
Great quotes are not going to help remove the bad guy from office. There needs to be a volunteer recruiting and strategy developed to ALERT 50+ million voters who didn't vote for Oblammma the liar and "illegal alien". Not to forget the Other 60) million voters who voted for a LIAR and a CHEAT who is stealing OUR rights .....rights that take 75% of the states to change...not ONE liar who appears to have his way for now.
*******************************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Jeff M wrote:
Subject: Great quote
"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multipy wealth by dividing it."
~~~ The late Dr. Adrian Rogers , 1931 to 2005 ~~~
Like I said, stop funding them.
"Ever so often, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Unalienable Rights
Well when the workd gets out, and it will, that this CURRENT government structure is OUR government , not anyone elses government.
It is OUR government's duty to protect RIGHTs. Privacy is arguably a RIGHT and the "illegal alien POTUS" has the right, too.
So where is the answer to the problem we have now?
The answer MAY not be in the courts but in the VOTERS' hands. LAW, recall of representatives, etc.
AND! The lack of 'standing' issue is a serious LEGAL problem. Cuz...one CANNOT compel the government to OBEY the laws IF one has NOT been injured ie: lacks standing.
So weigh the legal matters based on the red text above and you will SOON know that the Obama issue is OUR issue because he violated OUR law/s.
Just organize by calling and recruiting volunteers who are probably at the Grange, Eagles, Moose, Vet orgs. and on and on and on.
Get a laptop and do a Power Point presentation about Oblammmma etc at the organizations' meetings.
Put a sign on your vehicle saying we INAUGURATED an "ILLEGAL ALIEN" and have a website on the sign too, so the sign readers can find out what's going on with the "ILLEGAL ALIEN".
*****************************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Gary Mach
It is the difference between DeFacto and DeJure. Until we stop answering the wrong questions and start functioning in the correct realm programs will come and go as distractions and the machine keeps rolling along!
Their is a thing in court called traversing. It is used to keep an aponent off point. The idea is to get your aponent to traverse to an off point argument. If your aponent is kept off point you win. We can whine all we want about issues and not make any progress due to being off point. Most of (if not all) the programes keep the public off point. If they keep us asking the wrong questions they don't have give us the right answers,
The DeFacto Government is not the true Govt. and it's funding needs to end. That is some thing the people can do.
As to success and/or demise of the programs and bills you metioned they are all debatable. They are all off point.
What ever deal that goes down has a new bigger and badder one waiting in the wings. Voting the bums out is something the people can do to. But they don't. Why?
The people need to be reminded that nothing protects them as well as a Republican form of Govt. I don't mean being a Republican as to what they have become is some where left of center.
I think most will not get it untill it all colapses. Hopefully the people will do the right thing then and not just ask for more Govt.
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Unalienable Rights
Maybe focusing on what can be done instead of what can't be done would be the way to go wouldn't it ?
What about MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) it worked didn't it ? AND! What about 'BRADY" and the BRADY BILL ...it worked didn't it ? AND! what about the DUBAI PORTS DEAL it went down ...didn't it ? AND! what about the AMNESTY BILL ...it went down didn't it ?
AND! if a group is focused on REMOVING Oblammmma ...it will work too; no doubt about it...and it won't be an easy task to accomplish either.
See the link below and also the links in the SIGNATURE area of this email.
Resource to Combine progress Data of various Obama Elimination Groups:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7bd2qt_43f3qddwdk
**************************************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gary Mach
Until the voters figure out that their Senators, and Representatives aren't on their side and vote the bums out (If the votes really count, paper ballots might be in order here) nothing will change! We can recruit all we want but we still end up with people that don't know that Democrats and Republicans are almost identical in their core and will keep the machine rolling down the same path it has been on for the last 80+ years! If we don't break out of the 2 party system (it is really 1 party) we are doomed for sure! If the Congress did the right thing and did not abdicate their responsibility (because they have been paid off) we would not be in this mess. The Congress is a reflection of the dumbed down populace right now, they all wan't and have their hand out. Wellfair top to bottom! Fauxbamma only got in because the represenatives of the people didn't do their job. It starts there. No one is stealing our rights, the people have failed to hold their feet to the fire at the lower levels and retain our States rights! The population as a whole don't get it because they have been indoctrinated in the public school system and have no grasp on their responsibility to do their part. They want someone else to do the dirty work. The first thing people should be doing is cut off the funding and pay off ALL of their debt! With the debt paid off the house of cards colapses. Our monitary system is debt based, no debt no system, it is that easy! See the links in the signature below, and this link.
Resource to Combine progress Data of various Obama Elimination Groups:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7bd2qt_43f3qddwdk
***************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Unalienable Rights
Great quotes are not going to help remove the bad guy from office. There needs to be a volunteer recruiting and strategy developed to ALERT 50+ million voters who didn't vote for Oblammma the liar and "illegal alien". Not to forget the Other 60) million voters who voted for a LIAR and a CHEAT who is stealing OUR rights .....rights that take 75% of the states to change...not ONE liar who appears to have his way for now.
*******************************
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Jeff M
Subject: Great quote
"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multipy wealth by dividing it."
~~~ The late Dr. Adrian Rogers , 1931 to 2005 ~~~
From Victoria Winsor, Richmond VA
Dear Dr. Orly Taitz and Phil Berg, (et al)
Re: Jurisprudence
Quo Warranto
Ex parte
I continue to struggle to understand what has happened to the Law, the Constitution, the foundation of Rules of Civil Procedure, Statutes, FRCP and the like. Why has the National Bar and each State Bar, University Law Professors, juris doctrine; the foundation of law per se, allowed such lack of action. I fail to understand how the Supreme Court, knowingly having pending pleadings before all of the Justices, could have an ex parte closed discussion with the defendants, or for all the Judges to rule denied without explanation, nor grounds or foundation. Law is based upon facts and findings, evidence of fact that has been sealed by the defendants, difficult to obtain, however readily available. To my knowledge the defendant has not shown this original evidence to any authority nor that has admitted to having been shown. Not only was there an ex parte secret meeting, action was taken thereafter without the benefit of a written order, nor notice to plaintiffs. Did the defendant produce proof evidence to the Supreme Court? I do not know who has standing in this matter that affects the world, that is clear under constitutional law.
Thus, I have come full circle under juris doctrine. Where are the voices of Jurisprudence, the Bar, and the teachers of law? Does this not in fact affect the entire judiciary and the American Justice System? The Civil Rights of Americans have been violated by gross abuse of discretion and deliberate indifference. What is it that we can not see or scholars know we do not know? More and more de facto practice is taking the place of de jure with the results being a de facto country. It has been suggested that ‘people’ take their complaint to the U.S. Attorneys or DOJ. Even if we get their attention to this problematic issue what Court would DOJ take this to that private attorneys have not already attempted? Maybe we should try this in the press, however it has been said the press has already decided this case and is the cause and effect. .Possibly lawyers and the Bar should have a 3rd convention at historic St. John’s Church in Richmond, Virginia.
Cordially,
Victoria Windsor
Commonwealth of Virginia
Re: Jurisprudence
Quo Warranto
Ex parte
I continue to struggle to understand what has happened to the Law, the Constitution, the foundation of Rules of Civil Procedure, Statutes, FRCP and the like. Why has the National Bar and each State Bar, University Law Professors, juris doctrine; the foundation of law per se, allowed such lack of action. I fail to understand how the Supreme Court, knowingly having pending pleadings before all of the Justices, could have an ex parte closed discussion with the defendants, or for all the Judges to rule denied without explanation, nor grounds or foundation. Law is based upon facts and findings, evidence of fact that has been sealed by the defendants, difficult to obtain, however readily available. To my knowledge the defendant has not shown this original evidence to any authority nor that has admitted to having been shown. Not only was there an ex parte secret meeting, action was taken thereafter without the benefit of a written order, nor notice to plaintiffs. Did the defendant produce proof evidence to the Supreme Court? I do not know who has standing in this matter that affects the world, that is clear under constitutional law.
Thus, I have come full circle under juris doctrine. Where are the voices of Jurisprudence, the Bar, and the teachers of law? Does this not in fact affect the entire judiciary and the American Justice System? The Civil Rights of Americans have been violated by gross abuse of discretion and deliberate indifference. What is it that we can not see or scholars know we do not know? More and more de facto practice is taking the place of de jure with the results being a de facto country. It has been suggested that ‘people’ take their complaint to the U.S. Attorneys or DOJ. Even if we get their attention to this problematic issue what Court would DOJ take this to that private attorneys have not already attempted? Maybe we should try this in the press, however it has been said the press has already decided this case and is the cause and effect. .Possibly lawyers and the Bar should have a 3rd convention at historic St. John’s Church in Richmond, Virginia.
Cordially,
Victoria Windsor
Commonwealth of Virginia
Obama's approval rating drops 15% in one week
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Obama's Approval Rating Plummets 15% in a WeekPosted by Informer on January 25, 2009 at 12:33pm
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by: Bill Dupray posted: 2009-01-24 18:43:00
Hmmmm. On January 16, 2008, Obama had an approval rating of 83%, which was during the transition, a time when Obama didn't actually do anything (remember "No comment - there is only one president at a time").
Today, a week later, he is at 68%.
What could account for this sudden plunge in popularity? Could it be that the guy wants to spend a trillion dollars of taxpayer money at a time when we actually need our money just to make ends meet? Call me crazy, but telling people he is going to take their money and use it to paint bridges ain't exactly persuasive stuff.
Maybe he is losing support among the lefties, who might be realizing that The One might be a warmonger, no better than Bush, for bombing innocent dirt farmers in Nowhereistan?
Whatever the reasons, his numbers are falling. From Politico.
The Gallup Poll on Saturday released the first job-approval rating for President Obama, based on interviews during his first three full days in office: 68 percent.
Now that he’s in office, Obama’s approval ratings are starting to normalize, as partisan back-and-forth picks up. Just a week ago, Gallup found an astonishing 83 percent approval of how he has handled his transition, showing he had even won over most Republicans.
The new job-approval figure puts him at the upper end of opening poll numbers for presidents, but doesn’t set a record.
Gallup’s initial job approval ratings were President John F. Kennedy, 72 percent; Dwight Eisenhower, 68 percent; Jimmy Carter, 66 percent; Richard Nixon, 59 percent; Bill Clinton, 58 percent; George W. Bush, 57 percent; and Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, 51 percent.
So JFK he ain't. Eisenhower and Carter are more his speed. As I recall, one of those guys had a real job before he became president, saving Europe and all. The other one was well . . . Jimmy Carter. And we know how that ended.
Have the bloom and the rose begun to part ways?
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Obama's Approval Rating Plummets 15% in a WeekPosted by Informer on January 25, 2009 at 12:33pm
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by: Bill Dupray posted: 2009-01-24 18:43:00
Hmmmm. On January 16, 2008, Obama had an approval rating of 83%, which was during the transition, a time when Obama didn't actually do anything (remember "No comment - there is only one president at a time").
Today, a week later, he is at 68%.
What could account for this sudden plunge in popularity? Could it be that the guy wants to spend a trillion dollars of taxpayer money at a time when we actually need our money just to make ends meet? Call me crazy, but telling people he is going to take their money and use it to paint bridges ain't exactly persuasive stuff.
Maybe he is losing support among the lefties, who might be realizing that The One might be a warmonger, no better than Bush, for bombing innocent dirt farmers in Nowhereistan?
Whatever the reasons, his numbers are falling. From Politico.
The Gallup Poll on Saturday released the first job-approval rating for President Obama, based on interviews during his first three full days in office: 68 percent.
Now that he’s in office, Obama’s approval ratings are starting to normalize, as partisan back-and-forth picks up. Just a week ago, Gallup found an astonishing 83 percent approval of how he has handled his transition, showing he had even won over most Republicans.
The new job-approval figure puts him at the upper end of opening poll numbers for presidents, but doesn’t set a record.
Gallup’s initial job approval ratings were President John F. Kennedy, 72 percent; Dwight Eisenhower, 68 percent; Jimmy Carter, 66 percent; Richard Nixon, 59 percent; Bill Clinton, 58 percent; George W. Bush, 57 percent; and Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, 51 percent.
So JFK he ain't. Eisenhower and Carter are more his speed. As I recall, one of those guys had a real job before he became president, saving Europe and all. The other one was well . . . Jimmy Carter. And we know how that ended.
Have the bloom and the rose begun to part ways?
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Would you like to write to AP management about their writer Liz Sidoti
I was just about ready to throw up, when I read the heading by AP writer Liz Sidoti. She was saying that Obama broke from unpopular Bush administration by avoiding to take partizan, idological stands.(see below) I don't know what is wrong with this woman: either she is naturally thick or drank too much Obama cool-aid, but one of Obama's first orders was to remove a ban and allow our tax dollars to be used to finance abortions all over the world.
First of all about half of the populations of this country, conservatives and believers of all denominations oppose this action on moral grounds.
Second of all, majority of liberals, that don't oppose abortions in general, feel that our tax dollars should not be spent on abortions around the world, including Obama's native Africa or adopted Indonesia (he holds from birth foreign citizenship- originally of Great Britain, as his father's native Kenya was a British colony, later since 1963 citizenship of Kenya and since 1966 or 1967 citizenship of Indonesia- for which reason he is illegitimate for US presidency).
Based on all of the above, his first actions in office are highly divisive and highly insulting to great majority of population. I hope you write to AP management and board of directors and demand that they employ reporters with higher IQ and higher level of journalistic integrity.
Orly
breaks from Bush, avoids divisive stands
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Digg Facebook Newsvine del.icio.us Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Yahoo! Bookmarks Print By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer Liz Sidoti, Associated Press Writer – 2 mins ago
Featured Topics: Barack Obama Presidential Transition AP – President Barack Obama, accompanied by Vice President, and retired military members, gestures in the …
Play Video Barack Obama Video: President Obama Pushes Stimulus Package CBS4 Miami Play Video Barack Obama Video: New Details of Stimulus Package ABC News Play Video Barack Obama Video: First Strike on Obama's Watch ABC News WASHINGTON – Barack Obama opened his presidency by breaking sharply from George W. Bush's unpopular administration, but he mostly avoided divisive partisan and ideological stands.
First of all about half of the populations of this country, conservatives and believers of all denominations oppose this action on moral grounds.
Second of all, majority of liberals, that don't oppose abortions in general, feel that our tax dollars should not be spent on abortions around the world, including Obama's native Africa or adopted Indonesia (he holds from birth foreign citizenship- originally of Great Britain, as his father's native Kenya was a British colony, later since 1963 citizenship of Kenya and since 1966 or 1967 citizenship of Indonesia- for which reason he is illegitimate for US presidency).
Based on all of the above, his first actions in office are highly divisive and highly insulting to great majority of population. I hope you write to AP management and board of directors and demand that they employ reporters with higher IQ and higher level of journalistic integrity.
Orly
breaks from Bush, avoids divisive stands
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Email IM Share
Digg Facebook Newsvine del.icio.us Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Yahoo! Bookmarks Print By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer Liz Sidoti, Associated Press Writer – 2 mins ago
Featured Topics: Barack Obama Presidential Transition AP – President Barack Obama, accompanied by Vice President, and retired military members, gestures in the …
Play Video Barack Obama Video: President Obama Pushes Stimulus Package CBS4 Miami Play Video Barack Obama Video: New Details of Stimulus Package ABC News Play Video Barack Obama Video: First Strike on Obama's Watch ABC News WASHINGTON – Barack Obama opened his presidency by breaking sharply from George W. Bush's unpopular administration, but he mostly avoided divisive partisan and ideological stands.
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