tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post7698758208976670922..comments2023-10-31T05:19:53.062-07:00Comments on A Natural Born Citizen...Orly?: OBAMA'S PERSONAL RIGHT TO PRIVACY CANNOT TRUMP THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KNOW WHO THEIR PRESIDENT ISOrly Taitz, DDS Esq.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-89074766832260752082008-12-28T08:46:00.001-08:002008-12-28T08:46:00.001-08:00mandinkawarrior...when you say "conspiracy theorie...mandinkawarrior...when you say "conspiracy theories for those who are not pleased"...you don't understand the seriousness of this situation...you just don't get it....re: this is like Putin running for POTUS, a foreign national with allegience to another country. This obama (notice small case) is NOT a citizen, natural born citizen and cares nothing for the constitution. ANd google "civilian national security force"...how AMerican is that! A civilian security force, mandatory, more powerful than the military. THIs man will squash the constitution like you have never seen before....A person's color should have nothing to do with votes, and because it does this shows nothing but lack of principals, education, racism and sense.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-48011812486901407022008-12-27T10:13:00.001-08:002008-12-27T10:13:00.001-08:00You speak about the the burden of proof. I learne...You speak about the the burden of proof. I learned in debate class in high school that he who asserts must prove. That same concept was repeated during my legal studies and is the most fundamental element of both our criminal and civil law. Obama wants to be President and wants the American people to vote for him. Hence, he must prove he is a "natural born Citizen" as that term is used in Article II of the Constitution. He has woefully failed so far, even asserting his right to privacy to keep his personal information secret and unavailable to the American public who he will expect to vote for him. I speak in the future tense because we still do not know what Congress (elected by WE THE PEOPLE) will do in this matter. This matter is very simple, no matter how some "anti-conspiracy operatives" want to spin it. They cannot escape the simple point at hand. Time will tell who was "right" and who was "wrong." Even if the Obama defenders are right in the end, they cannot say that we were wrong, for we have only requested transparency and openness is government. We do not know what the facts are. Obama does. He cannot fault us for asking, given that he has not given us the information even thought it is clear that it is his duty and obligation to do so. <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-67914860252496989012008-12-27T09:44:00.001-08:002008-12-27T09:44:00.001-08:00Good luck in trying to make that happen.It is my b...Good luck in trying to make that happen.It is my belief that Barack Hussein Obama will be sworn in on Jan.20th and will remain POTUS for four or eight years.The speculations and yes conspiracy theories will continue for those who are not pleased for their own reasons about the election of Barack Hussein ObamaOrly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-47774613906304838442008-12-27T09:05:00.001-08:002008-12-27T09:05:00.001-08:00There is no conspiracy here. Just release the doc...There is no conspiracy here. Just release the documents. Simple!! Very logical.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-58472491813099208042008-12-27T09:01:00.001-08:002008-12-27T09:01:00.001-08:00Also look at the "certificate" he released. Since ...Also look at the "certificate" he released. Since when is "African" the name of a race of people? Especially in 1961. This field on the "certificate" he released should have said; "NEGRO". Political correctness hadn't yet been invented.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-78820360720420367992008-12-27T08:41:00.001-08:002008-12-27T08:41:00.001-08:00I understand what you are saying, but even in pro...I understand what you are saying, but even in prosecuting a criminal case, the prosecuting attorney has a right to sue for information by subpeona? The request for that information to OBTAIN the 'evidence' needed to present has been blocked by Obama's attorneys from the start.<br /><br />As for a conspiracy... Why wouldn't Obama's cousin (who he campaigned for) in Kenya want to blow a chance for his cousin to become the President of the USA? And the Hawaiian officials are involved in a conspiracy, but rather bound by privacy laws of the citizen Barack Obama.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-11608696844527808052008-12-27T08:37:00.001-08:002008-12-27T08:37:00.001-08:00And that is the big question of the day. If he al...And that is the big question of the day. If he already released his "real" COLB, what is the problem releasing the official one FROM the Hawaii Government? Unless, as you suggested, there is something that doesn't match up.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-15350491276820024882008-12-27T08:27:00.001-08:002008-12-27T08:27:00.001-08:00The burden of proof is the responsibilty of the ac...The burden of proof is the responsibilty of the accusers.I never understood why the SCOTUS,the nation of Kenya,the state of Hawaii and tens of thousands of others would join in on a conspiracy with Barack Hussein Obama.I am a believer in whats logical.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-90499633466715323202008-12-27T08:18:00.001-08:002008-12-27T08:18:00.001-08:00For those of you who want to read
an excellent ex...For those of you who want to read <br />an excellent explanation on the <br />difference between an Hawaiian <br />Certificate of Birth (BC)(what <br />Obama refuses to produce or to <br />be seen) and a Certification of <br />Live Birth (COLB) (what Obama <br />posted on the internet as his <br />ticket to the U.S. Presidency), <br />I refer you to <br />http://ubirevera.blogivists.com/<br />2008/<br />12/26/the-birth-certificate-issue-<br />that-would-not-go-away/<br />"The first refers to a certified <br />copy of the original hospital birth certificate which includes hospital <br />and doctor information. This is <br />also known as the vault copy. <br />Some of the information from the <br />original certificate is also <br />stored in a computerized data <br />base and is used to produce the computer-generated certification <br />of live birth, which is the <br />document that has been posted on <br />the internet." Id. <br /> <br />What is amazing is that anyone <br />applying for employment with <br />Hawaii Homeland programs (DHHL) <br />is required to produce a BC, <br />for a COLB does not provide <br />sufficient personal information <br />to verify the person's true <br />identity. Hawaii instructions <br />to DHHL applicants provide: <br />"When requesting a certified <br />copy of your birth certificate <br />from the Vital Records Section <br />of DOH, let the clerk know you <br />are requesting it 'For DHHL <br />Purposes,' and that you need a <br />copy of the original Certificate <br />of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification." <br />Does this not tell us anything <br />about the sufficiency of what <br />Obama has so far produced? If <br />that same COLB is not sufficient <br />in Hawaii itself for sensitive <br />employment there, how in the <br />world could it be sufficient to <br />be President of the United States? <br />Hawaii Health Officials maintain <br />they are prohibited by privacy <br />laws from disclosing further <br />information that is contained on <br />Obama's BC. Obama has not <br />consented to allowing them to <br />release this information. Should <br />Obama's privacy rights prevail <br />over the people's right to know <br />who their President is? <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq. <br />Jamesburg, New JerseyOrly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-9342615832924512302008-12-27T08:08:00.001-08:002008-12-27T08:08:00.001-08:00What right of privacy can he claim ? He supposedly...What right of privacy can he claim ? He supposedly released a true COLB online. So why not authorize the State of Hawaii to release a COLB request to anyone that asks for it ? Is it because the data in the fields won't match those of the one that he put online ? Also, in lieu of releasing an actual COLB to anyone that requests it, he can authorize the State of Hawaii to release the index data . That is just a computer printout of the fields and their entries.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-86707597802002297822008-12-27T07:49:00.001-08:002008-12-27T07:49:00.001-08:00This is the most well written reason and account o...This is the most well written reason and account of why we need to verify our President.<br /><br />No, right to privacy does NOT trump national security. That applies whether you are entering as the lowest rank in the military, why not for the leader of said military?Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-82414793092432366422008-12-27T07:46:00.001-08:002008-12-27T07:46:00.001-08:00For those of you who want to read an excellent exp...For those of you who want to read an excellent explanation on the difference between an Hawaiian Certificate of Birth (BC)(what Obama refuses to produce or to be seen) and a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) (what Obama posted on the internet as his ticket to the U.S. Presidency), I refer you to <br />http://ubirevera.blogivists.com/2008/12/26/the-birth-certificate-issue-that-would-not-go-away/<br />"The first refers to a certified copy of the original hospital birth certificate which includes hospital and doctor information. This is also known as the vault copy. Some of the information from the original certificate is also stored in a computerized data base and is used to produce the computer-generated certification of live birth, which is the document that has been posted on the internet." Id. <br /> <br />What is amazing is that anyone applying for employment with Hawaii Homeland programs (DHHL) is required to produce a BC, for a COLB does not provide sufficient personal information to verify the person's true identity. Hawaii instructions to DHHL applicants provide: "When requesting a certified copy of your birth certificate from the Vital Records Section of DOH, let the clerk know you are requesting it 'For DHHL Purposes,' and that you need a copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification." Does this not tell us anything about the sufficiency of what Obama has so far produced? If that same COLB is not sufficient in Hawaii itself for sensitive employment there, how in the world could it be sufficient to be President of the United States? Hawaii Health Officials maintain they are prohibited by privacy laws from disclosing further information that is contained on Obama's BC. Obama has not consented to allowing them to release this information. Should Obama's privacy rights prevail over the people's right to know who their President is? <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq. <br />Jamesburg, New JerseyOrly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-18864944951756784542008-12-27T07:33:00.001-08:002008-12-27T07:33:00.001-08:00Nikki said :
"the one who's VP knows Africa is a c...Nikki said :<br />"the one who's VP knows Africa is a continent, not a country...'<br />Well, first of all, Palin never said that. Other people that were in on the meeting confirmed that. Now lets talk about some statements that were made on the record - tehre are ecordings of them - from the other candidates. VP Biden - said that Roosevelt got on TV and made a speech right after the stock market crash in 1929. Problem is Roosevelt wasn't President at the time, Hoover was, and TV hadn't been invented yet. And of course the famous Obama quote that he has campaigned in all 57 states . Last time I counted there were only 50Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-16693562757657824212008-12-27T07:23:00.001-08:002008-12-27T07:23:00.001-08:00As a European I feel obligated to point out that '...As a European I feel obligated to point out that 'the rest of the world' really doesn't give a flying f*ck about where Obama was born. Seriously, the guy could be an undercover Martian for all we care, we're just happy the American people managed to elect the candidate that didn't sing 'bomb Iran' in public, you know, the one who's VP knows Africa is a continent, not a country...Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-9021606768160661692008-12-26T22:21:00.001-08:002008-12-26T22:21:00.001-08:00The easier issue to win is whether Obama was born ...The easier issue to win is whether Obama was born on U.S. soil. This is strictly a factual inquiry. If he is not born on U.S. soil and he cannot gain citizenship through either of his parents (which he cannot under the federal citizenship law in effect at the time of his birth given that his mother was only 18 years old when Obama was born and his father was not a U.S. citizen), then he is disqualified to be President for failure to meet a necessary condition, i.e., U.S. citizenship. This is the issue that Philip J. Berg, Esq. has presented to the U.S. Supreme Court and which was not presented by Leo Donofrio, Esq. and Cort Wrotnowski. <br />(Mr. Berg’s application to the Supreme Court also includes an argument that Obama lost whatever birth citizenship he had when Lolo Soetoro, Obama’s mother’s second husband, adopted or acknowledged Obama and thereby gave him Indonesian citizenship.) <br /><br />The next issue arises if Obama was born on U.S. soil, i.e., whether he is a "natural born Citizen" under Article II of the Constitution. Being a U.S. citizen is not sufficient for POTUS eligibility, for that person must be a "naturally born" citizen. This issue is much more complex and more open to debate. Mr. Donofrio and Mr. Wrotnowski did raise this issue before the U.S. Supreme Court but Mr. Berg has not included it in his pending application before the U.S. Supreme Court. <br /><br />The easiest issue to prevail on is the first. Why concede on this issue if Obama has yet to provide sufficient proof that he was born in Hawaii and there is significant evidence that he was born in Kenya? If the first issue is not presented and argued to a court, it is waived and then one is stuck with having to win on the more difficult issue, i.e., that even assuming Obama is born in Hawaii, he is not a "natural born Citizen" because he was not born to two parents who were U.S. citizens at the time of his birth. I am not saying that it is impossible to win on this second issue. I am only saying that it is much more difficult to win because of the lack of U.S. Supreme Court precedent to rely upon. The existing Supreme Court cases only address what a U.S. "Citizen" is and do not address what is an Article II "natural born Citizen." <br /><br />Both of these issues need to be presented and thoroughly argued to the U.S. Supreme Court, if neither Congress nor any other competent political institution or law enforcement agency is willing to address the matter. Of course, one needs the proper parties, facts, and procedural posture to get the Court to decide these issues on the underlying merits rather than on threshold issues of subject matter jurisdiction, standing, and political question. <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq. <br />Jamesburg, New JerseyOrly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-66855489025262239022008-12-26T21:14:00.001-08:002008-12-26T21:14:00.001-08:00Obama has already proved that he can't be trusted....Obama has already proved that he can't be trusted. The blago investigation is a PRIME example. He cleared himself! What a joke. He looked at himself, and stated I didn't do anything wrong.<br />I wonder how much Obama paid for the seat himself. This is bigger then Watergate, Iran-Contra, and Whitewater combined and he's not even in office. <br />He is a political nightmare. <br />Natural Born is a requirement, not a suggestion.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-20588420247895850082008-12-26T20:39:00.001-08:002008-12-26T20:39:00.001-08:00He has already admitted that his father was a Brit...He has already admitted that his father was a British citizen and that he too was a British citizen at birth.The birth certificate will change nothing. One American mother and one British father equals one British born baby. Not a Natural Born American Citizen by any stretch of the imagination.Orly Taitz, DDS Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.com