tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post7686510397713387164..comments2023-10-31T05:19:53.062-07:00Comments on A Natural Born Citizen...Orly?: Lightfoot v Bowen Now On SCOTUS DocketOrly Taitz, DDS Esq.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09032528086295633238noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-46346725907567266412008-12-12T23:26:00.000-08:002008-12-12T23:26:00.000-08:00Point 1: If Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitut...Point 1: If Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution is ever rewritten, I think that the Preamble would have to be trashed out reqritten also, since it says that the purpose of the Constitution is to allow for domestic Tranquility and provide for common defence. You can't have that if anyone from anywhere has the opportunity to be President.<BR/><BR/>Point 2: The Judiciary Committee's finding about John McCain doesn't hold much weight. It's about as strong as two people conversing on the phone, coming up with what they think is right. Easily overruled. More of a PR stunt, but it's being put on the News as some sort of authoritarian decision. I heard this from two lawyers involved in the ineligibility issues.David Mivshekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05285554964524668582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-11476693559089876322008-12-12T23:17:00.000-08:002008-12-12T23:17:00.000-08:00Congrats!Congrats!David Mivshekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05285554964524668582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-4856190624027484112008-12-12T22:31:00.000-08:002008-12-12T22:31:00.000-08:00It’s time to start the work of doing the following...It’s time to start the work of doing the following:<BR/><BR/>Call for local leaders ( Gov, Local Senators and House Reps ) <BR/>to call for a Constitutional Convention to take back and <BR/>stabilize the American Foundation of Freedom, Justice & Liberty for all. <BR/><BR/><B>Set terms limits for all elected representatives!<BR/></B><BR/><BR/><B>REPEAL THE 16th & 17th AMENDMENTS! </B><BR/>http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/2008/12/12/repeal-the-16th-17th-amendments-at-the-constitutional-convention/<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>REPEAL THE 17TH AMENDMENT</B><BR/>http://www.articlev.com/repeal_the_17th_amendment.htm<BR/>After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the federal government <BR/>announced that it would preempt all state jurisdiction over airport security. <BR/><BR/>The federal government preempted state powers without regard to balancing federal and state responsibilities so that these responsibilities, and related costs, could be distributed across federal, state, and local governments. <BR/>(This is a partial source)<BR/><BR/>The 16th Amendment, ratified in 1913, allowed the federal government to levy a tax on all incomes. <BR/>House Joint Resolution 45, dubbed the “Liberty Amendment,” would strip the federal government of that authority.<BR/><BR/>“America existed for nearly 140 years without an income tax,” Paul concluded. <BR/><BR/>“The federal government generally adhered to its strictly enumerated <BR/>constitutional functions during that time, operating with modest excise revenues. When Congress introduced the 16th Amendment, <BR/>it opened the door to the era of big government. <BR/>This amendment would close that door.” <BR/><BR/>http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22732Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-80155513396627963252008-12-12T22:21:00.000-08:002008-12-12T22:21:00.000-08:00Obama’s Friends Working to Amend the Natural Born ...Obama’s Friends Working to Amend the Natural Born Citizen Requirement<BR/>http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/obama-covertly-working-to-amend-the-natural-born-citizen-requirement/<BR/><BR/><BR/>They said "The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the<BR/>United States Constitution has been called the "stupidest provision" !! <BR/>http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-959254043719153912008-12-12T22:15:00.000-08:002008-12-12T22:15:00.000-08:00Thanks to Lan Lamphere for bringing this to my att...Thanks to Lan Lamphere for bringing this to my attention regarding to the upcoming Constitution Conference:<BR/><BR/><B>U.S. now only 2 states away from rewriting Constitution !!!</B><BR/>http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/2008/12/12/us-now-only-2-states-away-from-rewriting-constitution/#comments<BR/><BR/>A public policy organization has issued an urgent alert stating affirmative votes are needed from only two more states before a Constitutional Convention could be assembled in which “today’s corrupt politicians and judges” could formally change the U.S.Constitution’s “‘problematic’ provisions to reflect the philosophical and social mores of our contemporary society.”<BR/><BR/>“Don’t for one second doubt that delegates to a Con Con wouldn’t revise the First Amendment into a government-controlled privilege, replace the 2nd <BR/>Amendment with a ‘collective’ right to self-defense, and abolish the 4th, 5th, and 10th Amendments, and the rest of the Bill of Rights,” said the warning <BR/>from the American Policy Institute.<BR/><BR/>“<B>Additions could include the non-existent separation of church and state, the ‘right’ to abortion and euthanasia</B>, and much, much more,” the group said.<BR/><BR/>The warning comes at a time when Barack Obama, who is to be voted the next president by the Electoral College Monday, has expressed his belief the U.S. Constitution needs to be interpreted through the lens of current events.<BR/><BR/><B>Tom DeWeese</B>, who runs the center and its education and grassroots work, told WND the possibilities stunned him when he discovered lawmakers in Ohio are considering a call for a Constitutional Convention. He explained that 32 other states already have taken that vote, and only one more would be needed to require Congress to name convention delegates who then would have more power than Congress itself.<BR/><BR/>(Full Source here:) <BR/>http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83364<BR/><BR/>Please spread the word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-43424218295935120092008-12-12T21:25:00.000-08:002008-12-12T21:25:00.000-08:00The case STILL is not showing up in the U.S. Supre...The case STILL is not showing up in the U.S. Supreme Court Docket search engine. I wonder if Danny Bickell is once again up to his shenanigans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-86515718689425502732008-12-12T19:54:00.000-08:002008-12-12T19:54:00.000-08:00BREAKING NEWS!!!White House says "No Blair House f...BREAKING NEWS!!!<BR/><BR/>White House says "No Blair House for Obama until after Electoral College vote count".<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.uslaw.com/pop/?p=164" REL="nofollow">http://www.uslaw.com/pop/?p=164</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-92070992828951851352008-12-12T19:48:00.000-08:002008-12-12T19:48:00.000-08:00What makes you think any of the Supreme Court just...What makes you think any of the Supreme Court justices are swayed in the least bit by organized and canned letter campaigns?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-15907023652024842112008-12-12T19:41:00.000-08:002008-12-12T19:41:00.000-08:00Judiciary Committee defined "natural born&quo...Judiciary Committee defined "natural born" <BR/><BR/>I don't know if you already have this posted somewhere on this blog, however, for those that are getting up to speed on this issue, this is good information.<BR/> Patrick Leahy is the Democrat Senator who is now serving his 6th term (1974-present).<BR/> He is ranked 7th in Seniority in the Senate<BR/> He is Chairman of the Judiciary Committee<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/> On March 19, 2008, the Judiciary Committee that he chairs found the following to be true when they were determining whether or not John McCain's citizenship status qualified him to occupy the office of the President of the United States. While this Judiciary Committee was able to determine that McCain was eligible, this finding also disallowed Barack Obama's standing to occupy the office of the President of the United States. <BR/><BR/> It is no longer about Obama's birth certificate being held in secrecy. Obama himself has admitted and produced his own evidence that his father was not a U.S. Citizen. This is why several of these lawsuits have been allowed to progress to the highest court in the land.<BR/><BR/> On Leahy's website, the following document is found. Note: the direct link to the page itself cannot be found, however, if you go to his website, you will find the document the link is stated below.<BR/><BR/><BR/> Please note that the following determination was made by Leahy's Judiciary Committee. (This was copied and pasted without editorial comments.) They determined that one of the requirements is that both parents be U.S. Citizens. Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen, so Barack cannot fulfill this requirement.<BR/><BR/> So that you can validate the accuracy of this document, here are the links:<BR/><BR/> http://leahy.senator.gov<BR/><BR/> and, the direct link that is no longer working: http://leahy.senator.gov/issues/Judiciary/McCainAnalysis.pdf<BR/><BR/> The lawsuits that are now before the U.S. Supreme Court are requesting the Supreme Court's official definition of "natural born citizen."<BR/><BR/> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR/><BR/> Leahy's website document:<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/> March 19, 2008<BR/> We have analyzed whether Senator John McCain is eligible for the U.S. Presidency, in<BR/> light of the requirement under Article II of the U.S. Constitution that only "natural born<BR/> Citizen[s) ... shall be eligible to the Office of President." U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl. 5. We<BR/> conclude that ,Senator McCain is a "natural born Citizen" by virtue of his birth in 1936 to U.S.<BR/> citizen parents who were serving their country on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal<BR/> Zone. The circumstances of Senator McCain's birth satisfy the original meaning and intent of<BR/> the Natural Born Citizen Clause, as confirmed by subsequent legal precedent and historical<BR/> practice.<BR/> The Constitution does not define the meaning of "natural born Citizen." The U.S.<BR/> Supreme Court gives meaning to terms that are not expressly defined in the Constitution by<BR/> looking to the context in which those terms are used; to statutes enacted by the First Congress,<BR/> Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, 790-91 (1983); and to the common law at the time of the<BR/> Founding. United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655 (1898). These sources all confirm<BR/> that the phrase "natural born" includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth<BR/> within a nation's territory and allegiance. Thus, regardless of the sovereign status of the Panama<BR/> Canal Zone at the time of Senator McCain's birth, he is a "natural born" citizen because he was<BR/> born to parents who were U.S. citizens.<BR/> Congress has recognized in successive federal statutes since the Nation's Founding that<BR/> children born abroad to U.S. citizens are themselves U.S. citizens. 8 U.S.C. § 1401(c); see also<BR/> Act of May 24, 1934, Pub. L. No. 73-250, § 1,48 Stat. 797, 797. Indeed, the statute that the First<BR/> Congress enacted on this subject not only established that such children are U.S. citizens, but<BR/> also expressly referred to them as "natural born citizens." Act of Mar. 26, 1790, ch. 3, § 1, 1<BR/> Stat. 103, 104.<BR/> Senator McCain's status as a "natural born" citizen by virtue of his birth to U.S. citizen<BR/> parents is consistent with British statutes in force when the Constitution was drafted, which<BR/> undoubtedly informed the Framers' understanding of the Natural Born Citizen Clause. Those<BR/> statutes provided, for example, that children born abroad to parents who were "natural-born<BR/> Subjects" were also "natural-born Subjects ... to all Intents, Constructions and Purposes<BR/> whatsoever." British Nationality Act, 1730,4 Geo. 2, c. 21. The Framers substituted the word<BR/> "citizen" for "subject" to reflect the shift from monarchy to democracy, but the Supreme Court<BR/> has recognized that the two terms are otherwise identical. See, e.g., Hennessy v. Richardson<BR/> Drug Co., 189 U.S. 25, 34-35 (1903). Thus, the First Congress's statutory recognition that<BR/> persons born abroad to U.S. citizens were "natural born" citizens fully conformed to British<BR/> tradition, whereby citizenship conferred by statute based on the circumstances of one's birth<BR/> made one natural born.<BR/> There is a second and independent basis for concluding that Senator McCain is a "natural<BR/> born" citizen within the meaning of the Constitution. If the Panama Canal Zone was sovereign<BR/> U.S. territory at the time of Senator McCain's birth, then that fact alone would make him a<BR/> "natural born" citizen under the well-established principle that "natural born" citizenship<BR/> includes birth within the territory and allegiance of the United States. See, e.g., Wong Kim Ark,<BR/> 169 U.S. at 655-66. The Fourteenth Amendment expressly enshrines this connection between<BR/> birthplace and citizenship in the text of the Constitution. U.S. Const. amend. XIV, § 1 ("All<BR/> persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are<BR/> citizens of the United States .... ") (emphases added). Premising "natural born" citizenship on<BR/> the character of the territory in which one is born is rooted in the common-law understanding<BR/> that persons born within the British kingdom and under loyalty to the British Crown-including<BR/> most of the Framers themselves, who were born in the American colonies-were deemed<BR/> "natural born subjects." See, e.g., 1 William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws a/England<BR/> 354 (Legal Classics Library 1983) (1765) ("Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the<BR/> dominions of the crown of England, that is, within the ligeance, or as it is generally called, the<BR/> allegiance of the king .... ").<BR/> There is substantial legal support for the proposition that the Panama Canal Zone was<BR/> indeed sovereign U.S. territory when Senator McCain was born there in 1936. The U.S.<BR/> Supreme Court has explained that, "[f]rom 1904 to 1979, the United States exercised sovereignty<BR/> over the Panama Canal and the surrounding 1O-mile-wide Panama Canal Zone." 0'Connor v.<BR/> United States, 479 U.S. 27, 28 (1986). Congress and the executive branch similarly suggested<BR/> that the Canal Zone was subject to the sovereignty of the United States. See, e.g., The<BR/> President-Government a/the Canal Zone, 26 Op. Att'y Gen. 113, 116 (1907) (recognizing that<BR/> the 1904 treaty between the United States and Panama "imposed upon the United States the<BR/> obligations as well as the powers of a sovereign within the [Canal Zone]"); Panama Canal Act of<BR/> 1912, Pub. L. No. 62-337, § 1, 37 Stat. 560, 560 (recognizing that "the use, occupancy, or<BR/> control" of the Canal Zone had been "granted to the United States by the treaty between the<BR/> United States and the Republic of Panama"). Thus, although Senator McCain was not born<BR/> within a State, there is a significant body of legal authority indicating that he was nevertheless<BR/> born within the sovereign territory of the United States.<BR/> Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United<BR/> States, but not within a State, satisfies the Natural Born Citizen Clause. For example, Vice<BR/> President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860-0ne year<BR/> before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment requires that Vice Presidents<BR/> possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that<BR/> the phrase "natural born Citizen" includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. territory.<BR/> Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the<BR/> Republican Party's presidential nomination in 1964. And Senator Barack Obama was born in<BR/> Hawaii on August 4, 1961-not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We<BR/> find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he<BR/> been born two years earlier.<BR/> Senator McCain's candidacy for the Presidency is consistent not only with the accepted<BR/> meaning of "natural born Citizen," but also with the Framers' intentions when adopting that<BR/> language. The Natural Born Citizen Clause was added to the Constitution shortly after John Jay<BR/> sent a letter to George Washington expressing concern about "Foreigners" attaining the position<BR/> of Commander in Chief. 3 Max Farrand, The Records a/the Federal Convention 0/1787, at 61<BR/> (1911). It goes without saying that the Framers did not intend to exclude a person from the<BR/> office of the President simply because he or she was born to U.S. citizens serving in the U.S.<BR/> military outside of the continental United States; Senator McCain is certainly not the<BR/> hypothetical "Foreigner" who John Jay and George Washington were concerned might usurp the<BR/> role of Commander in Chief.<BR/> 2<BR/> Therefore:, based on the origfualmeamrtg of the Constitution. the fr~ers' .intentions,and<BR/> subsequent legal and histonca1 precedent, Senator McCain:' s birth to parents Wh:o were U.S.<BR/> citizens, serving ()na U.S.militaIy b.&S~ in tQe B~a Canal Zone. in 1936, makes hint a<BR/> "natural bom CItizen;" within the meaning of the Constitution.<BR/><BR/> END OF DOCUMENT<BR/><BR/> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------California Baby Boomer https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970864561110082453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-16998878380074327442008-12-12T18:56:00.000-08:002008-12-12T18:56:00.000-08:00It's still not on the docket at 6:55 pm pacific ti...It's still not on the docket at 6:55 pm pacific time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-17648278196532472212008-12-12T18:27:00.000-08:002008-12-12T18:27:00.000-08:00Would anyone kindly place and paste a Good Example...Would anyone kindly place and paste a Good Example letter right here for us to read and we may add a few comments and then we will mail it to Justice Anthony Kennedy ? <BR/><BR/>When is the deadline date ?<BR/><BR/>We're praying for you, too.<BR/>Our Good Lord is with you <BR/>all the way.<BR/><BR/>God Bless Orly !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-70560957525441446222008-12-12T17:48:00.000-08:002008-12-12T17:48:00.000-08:00Orly,I watched the Press Conference on Dec 8th, yo...Orly,<BR/>I watched the Press Conference on Dec 8th, you were terrific. We are all praying for you and know that you will be successful. You are a true patriot. GOD BLESS YOU ORLY, KEEP UP THE WONDERFUL WORK!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-39043532616796110922008-12-12T17:31:00.000-08:002008-12-12T17:31:00.000-08:00This guy takes some time to interpret natural born...This guy takes some time to interpret natural born citizen in regard to McCain. It appears that this man's interpretation would EXCLUDE Obama from being a natural born citizen...<BR/><BR/>http://www.michiganlawreview.org/firstimpressions/vol107/solum.pdfWonder Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16750862619910923589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-11728528283073274602008-12-12T16:52:00.001-08:002008-12-12T16:52:00.001-08:00Dr. Orly, can you please post your docket info -- ...Dr. Orly, can you please post your docket info -- it's not showing up yet..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-74700401125248383172008-12-12T16:52:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:52:00.000-08:00It isn't on the docket I just checkedIt isn't on the docket I just checkedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958992492864100930.post-19686407366026378442008-12-12T16:38:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:38:00.000-08:00Can you place paste a URL directly linking to SCOT...Can you place paste a URL directly linking to SCOTUS website so we can bookmark it.<BR/><BR/>------------------------<BR/>FAQ on Obama's birth<BR/><BR/>http://sites.google.com/site/obamabirth/<BR/><BR/>Come and be aware of the issues<BR/>------------------------Johannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11997975931495354867noreply@blogger.com